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A strong argument against Python\u2019s batteries included model exposes some bigger problems the community is struggling with. We chat about all of it.

Plus lessons learned six years after a project, a new tool, and some feedback.

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Links:

• Home Page - ABC-Deploy — ABC-Update is an easy to use tool that sets you in control of MS Update operations.
• On logic in a Rails app, revisited 6 years later — My argument was that Rails is just an UI layer, and business logic should be put in domain objects instead of keeping somewhere in Model, View or Controller.
• Python Software Foundation
• Batteries Included, But They're Leaking — Amber Brown of the Twisted project shared her criticisms of the Python standard library.
• Twisted: Event-driven networking engine written in Python. — Twisted is an event-based framework for internet applications