Part two of our episode focusing on the pain points of cloud transformation. Jeremy, Dave, Rachel, and Ben discuss organisational changes…and then someone drops the ‘C’ bomb! 00:00 -Introduction 02.20-News - Who is Yandex? 09:00 - Cloudy Cliffhanger (Question) 12:05 - Pain Point #3 - Organisational change - People, Process & Technology 14.14 - What is DevOps? 16:40 - It’s about balance 18:12 - The ‘C’ word 27:08 - Pain Point #4 - Management Buy-in 35:42 - Pain Point #5 - Pace of change 38:16 - Cloudy Cliffhanger (Answer)