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Australian designer, illustrator and typographer Gemma O\u2019Brien reveals how her big break began with being slammed by a noteworthy font expert on the internet, regales Jaime and Amy with her puke puns for illustrated barf bags, and elaborates on her deep love of words and letters. She\u2019s also a great sport in a silly round of word association. 

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