Penn Jillette Magic, Tricks, and Us

Published: Jan. 19, 2021, 4:30 a.m.

When we see a magic trick, is the magician fooling us, or are we fooling ourselves? Penn Jillette, the talking half of the magic team Penn and Teller, tells Alan how tricks are a test of how we process reality.\n\nSupport the show: https://www.patreon.com/clearandvivid