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"Does anyone else feel like the security field is attracting a lot of low-quality people and hurting our reputation," asked a redditor on the cybersecurity subreddit who remembers a time when security personnel were seen as highly experienced technologists. But now they believe people view cybersecurity as an easy tech job to break into for easy money.

This week\u2019s episode is hosted by me,\xa0David Spark\xa0(@dspark), producer of CISO Series and\xa0Andy Ellis\xa0(@csoandy), operating partner,\xa0YL Ventures.\xa0Our\xa0guest is Stephen Cicirelli, CISO, American Bureau of Shipping.

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In this episode:

• Does anyone else feel like the security field is attracting a lot of low-quality people and hurting our reputation?
  
• Do people view cybersecurity as an easy tech job to break into for easy money?
  
• With all this talk of needing more cyber talent, are we attracting quality or just quantity?