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It seems anything that's added to a business, like a new app or a third party vendor, just adds more risk. Risk definitely piles up faster than CISOs can reduce it.

This week\u2019s episode is hosted by me,\xa0David Spark\xa0(@dspark), producer of CISO Series and\xa0Mike Johnson.\xa0Our guest is Kurt Sauer (@kurtsauer), CISO, DocuSign (when we recorded the show, Kurt was the vp of security for Workday).

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In this episode:\xa0

• Does it seem like anything that's added to a business, like a new app or a third party vendor, just adds more risk?
• Does risk pile up faster than CISOs can reduce it?
• How do you avoid creating new risks when you add new applications, or even just update applications?