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It\\u2019s extremely hard to tell if a cybersecurity leader is doing a good job. In fact, it\\u2019s tough for even them to know. Our best bet is watching for an improvement in the cybersecurity program over time.

This week\\u2019s episode is hosted by me,\\xa0David Spark\\xa0(@dspark), producer of CISO Series and\\xa0Mike Johnson. Our sponsored guest is\\xa0Mark Wojtasiak\\xa0(@markwojtasiak), vice president, research & strategy,\\xa0Code42\\xa0and co-author of\\xa0\\u201cInside Jobs.\\u201d

Thanks to this week\\u2019s podcast sponsor, Code42

As organizations gradually and cautiously move out of adapt out of adapt-or-die mode into the post-pandemic era, we can expect a second phase of digital transformation: resilience building. This presents an opportunity for security teams. An opportunity to re-imagine data security.\\xa0More from Code42.

In this episode:

• What is your business\'s biggest frustration when managing cybersecurity?
• Aaaand...what is your biggest frustration when managing cybersecurity?
• How do you know when a Security Leader (including yourself) is doing a good job?
• Would it help if Security hired a marketing manager?

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