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On the 18th episode of The Silver Bullet Security Podcast, Gary talks with Dr. Eugene Spafford, better known as \u201cSpaf.\u201d Spaf is a professor of computer science and Electrical and Computer Engineering at Purdue University and executive director of the Center for Education and Research in Information Assurance and Security (CERIAS). On this episode, Gary and Spaf discuss the role of software testing in computer security, commercial certifications and whether they obviate the need for academic training, how Spaf feels about so-called \u201cethical hacking,\u201d and why auditing and compliance is an area of emerging specialization.\n\nTranscript of this episode [PDF]\nDr. Eugene Spafford\nSpaf\u2019s blog at CERIAS\nGene Spafford \u2013 Wikipedia\nCERIAS \u2013 Center for Education and Research in Information Assurance and Security\nPITAC \u2013 President\u2019s Information Technology Advisory Committee\nWhat did you really expect? \u2013 Spaf\u2019s post on \u201creformed hackers\u201d\nThe Internet Worm Program: An Analysis\nYucks Digest\n\nThe post The Importance of Software Testing with Eugene Spafford appeared first on Cigital \xbb The Silver Bullet Security Podcast with Gary McGraw.\nThe post The Importance of Software Testing with Eugene Spafford appeared first on Cigital \xbb The Silver Bullet Security Podcast with Gary McGraw.