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I met these newlyweds at a Johnnyswim show a couple weeks ago and immediately connected with their energy! Possibly because they, too, are musicians AND they\u2019re a 7 and a 2 on the ennegram (my type is a tie of those two!). Their talent with music, songwriting, and artistry is excellent and their hearts are even more grand than their giftings. Listen to The Graes on Spotify or Apple Music as and follow them on Instagram @wearethegraes! They also just started their own podcast called All Things Grae! I loved this conversation because of my love for music and writing, but also because they give encouragement and helpful advice to musicians, singers, writers, or any aspiring artists on the challenges and highlights of making music a career! And they\u2019re fantastic conversationalists and just fun and down to earth friends (that have guaranteed me VIP passes to their shows if I make them a cool sign!) \n\n--- \n\nSupport this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/churchtalks/support