928: Strategy Between the Slices | Steven Cirulis, CFO, Potbelly

Published: Aug. 27, 2023, 10:14 p.m.

Perhaps it would be fair to speculate that were it not for the changing dietary habits of Americans and surprise arrival of a global pandemic, Steven Cirulis would likely not be occupying the CFO office at Potbelly Sandwich Shop.

The pursuit of new alternative proteins inside the land of agtech has in recent years led more than few venture capital firms to seek out the advice of strategy executives familiar with the mathematics behind the evolving menus of fast dining establishments.


Having held a succession of top strategy roles with the likes of McDonald\u2019s and Panera, Steven Cirulis found his budding popularity within the VC community to be little more than a rewarding satisfaction\u2014that is, until late 2019, when he decided to put some of his VC-related activities aside to accommodate an advisory gig with publicly-held sandwich shop Potbelly.  


\u201cThey had been looking for a CFO at the time, but I was really enjoying my work on the venture capital side of things,\u201d recalls Cirulis, who adds that the arrival of the pandemic changed everything.


\u201cI ostensibly became the person whom they turned to and asked, \u2018Okay, what do we do here?,\u2019\u201d continues Cirulis.


Within the next several weeks, he busily implemented a list of cash preservation edicts, triggered the renegotiation of bank covenants, and\u2014along with Potbelly management\u2014announced a pay cut, instituted an employee furlough, and applied for a PPP loan.


Along the way\u2014perhaps not more than a month into the pandemic\u2014Potbelly proposed to Cirulis that he join the company as CFO and chief strategy officer.


\u201cWhy would you join a restaurant business at the start of a pandemic?,\u201d rhetorically reflects Cirulis, in highlighting but one of the queries that crossed his mind at the time.


Nevertheless, Cirulis tells us, \u201cI jumped at it.\u201d  


Three years later, with the virus now in the rearview mirror, Cirulis makes it clear that the pandemic will never fully escape his view: \u201cGetting forgiveness on that PPP loan was a great day in my career as a CFO.\u201d \u2013Jack Sweeney