Host Brian Wesolowski chats with CDT's newest addition, Katharina Kopp, Director of the Privacy and Data Project. She comes to us after having led the global privacy risk management program for American Express and establishing herself as a leader on privacy policy and digital rights advocacy for a number of NGOs.\n\nAttribution: sounds used from Psykophobia, Taira Komori, BenKoning, Zabuhailo, bloomypetal, guitarguy1985, bmusic92, and offthesky of freesound.org.