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This episode of Capes and lunatics brought to you by tweaked audience awesome headphones tweaked audio dot com and use the coupon code southgate get thirty percent off free shipping in a lifetime warranty where he can get there through the link on our website Southgate Media Group Dot Com all right so where we're going to begin the comic yeah it's only one yeah so what did you think of Sixty Batman title dead yet you said Twenty twenty but yeah I I didn't remember that it was so yeah I guess what I'm wondering is is it the I five I mean it's it's getting it's getting better I mean I'm interested to see I'm interested to see where it goes I felt like still align I mean it just feels if it were something other than Amnesia I think I would like I dunno NBC just feel so I mean honestly I think though now that cobs involved in the quarter vows it is getting more interesting than I am definitely like more excited about what's going to happen John Happened in the in the issue you know the five but then was just talking which is fine I like dogging but I think it's the one that comes out in January I was thinking because I mean it's already October yeah because just like when King shot him I think they said I think they're bringing Dick Grayson uh-huh and we're here to discuss well there's another issue of might wing this this lightning sixty five they ever going to catch up on some yeah I mean you know piece of the puzzle to move it forward I think it's another weakness Home Ninja thing it's just like Oh hey I'm the talent who the issue that's helpful but I imagine that honestly with this news where they are losing readers not gaining readers so anything actually were fans the economy so it's not like everything has to make sense that's why we have comic book science and stuff whatever I mean I'm just hoping really you had to for whatever reason you need to get him out of the way for this thing in Batman because you need to be alone almost be breaking but like it's not that great of a story the KGB's infamous Batman fifty five and change the course of Dick Rick Grayson's career gone were the memories and alliances that wants to find wrote back in In the Batman Book so yeah so I don't know when in twenty twenty but hopefully sometime in early twenty three hundred or so in that long the annual yeah I we able to I think it's supposed to come out on the thirtieth it's supposed to be like his first days it's supposed to kind of fill in some of the Oh yeah night wing annual to October thirtieth yeah this week coming up with the week after we might have to right yeah I mean I'm the south at the Corvallis at all so your great-grandfather Shit right yeah I mean I guess if you're someone who does recently picked up yeah I mean again it's it is getting a little better but again a lot of it's just you know got him in the talent talking and you know GonNa make you a not too I kind of fear there embiid any way too because you know eightieth anniversary right in 'em you should think is running at scores the I look forward to get his memory back I'm actually quite looking forward to the annual it's supposed to come out I think at the end of this month in our the I mean I don't understand why they had one another one of their big fights in the trying to talk to you for next year whatever yeah or like not even I mean they replaced by near blank slate persona now go inside those early moments of Rick's new life has strained reunion with a stranger named Bruce Wayne and an entire life turned upside down but amid the chaos lies opportunity not forensic but for an old foe who's been waiting a lifetime for a moment like this echoes of the past return in the story that tees up I mean if I were tell that's what I would do well yeah I mean obviously this is the best chance you've had so meetings episode he's into Kimberly Congregate Yup people don't seem to be in the width but did I send you the link I guess they're saying Indiana starting in January I James Time is taken over the it's alright but it's like I mean Diggs probably not in it as he know that that's my whole problem almost like you know in this you know in this scenario you know issue they company it's not a huge deal but is it the issue that comes out in January twenty twenty earns at the one labeled January twenty twenty because the label that it's too earlier uh dictum while you like lately like family a whole system in planning in his head maybe like involved over three decades I don't know well I'm excited for it leaded it's waiting for me at the shop but I haven't been to the shop I read night wing online when I need to know how is that I was excited for it is it good Judy contract one comes out whenever that is I know it was on the list I mean well maybe I don't know the image now you're yeah here let me look this I'll look up talking about like with Bruce and stuff so you know that's my jam you like no one else just ignore things that are inconvenient to your story there's like no robbins there's like no Alfred it's like I don't want to say who he gets help from but it's like it's not years it's like he was like I'm like he was never that big of a thinker I'm like how did he set up the you know well like little said he had like a the solicits mentioned this but like after Admiral Defeats Batman he sets you know basically you know becomes Saint Batman becomes like this you know basically running Gotham for the next thirty it works Amnesia that you just like boom now I remember everything I forgot what I'm saying like downloaded into his head like wings own year of the villain go there I know they're probably going to set up that you know towns in watching him since the moment he was shy yeah I wanted to be awesome we had the night wingstop is good but I just I just wonder if like that whole Helmet Uh yeah slut reminded to slide another episode in the s the at least another at least one more episode of in the Friday afterwards he'd have to more let's see my schedule but yeah we can squeeze it and of course yeah the bullet shattered night wings life was the shot fired upright episode Jason's kidnapped episode that's okay so I understand doing it in like it's fine it just stresses me out but what is your with now they're so many episodes on cliffhangers the cliffhangers from last season science for sure Oh yeah just like they give him as a secret identity back right yeah because it's like somehow you I assume he'll just like remember everything us oh well because it was Jason Jason has died in comics so jason really the only character that him falling down his building I'm not fully confident Robbins and Alfred C that's that's the newcomb focus just ignore it and I don't think I'm spoiling too much because wanted you dead you'd already be dead I mean I think is true wondered trying to think about now Israel defeats Batmans we can't come back like Oars Wing Knight Wings in was in the end of that nightfall stories like so no it was not as cliffhanging as these like that cliffhanger win Jason was balling I worry about what happens to be yes I know I am working about what's going to happen what's going to happen to be doesn't it it's not GonNa work obviously you should just know that but tell nobis into comic books so he doesn't do it it doesn't are we will talk some titans I think that that's where the action is is Jeez Yeah Yeah it's this last one has been we see Dr Light than the old titans come back to the tower Oh yeah and then the next one is when girth is killed right awful ad so we know we know what's going on but yeah supposedly people's be packing the twenty twenty sound fully back credit they're they're playing nicely before we get to seven are you like in the season more than the first season I know I am US 'cause it was like whoa literal cliffhanger he's falling and I would like I didn't think that he would die but the the flash back to the original paint Lens right and then we're back everybody coming together that it lasts yes yes overall I mean I particularly loved the first two episodes and then some because super bowl it but then at the end he's he's flies in and saves Jason but gets shot with a kryptonite bullet I mean a good episode with the line this episode doesn't end with Connor Saving Jason.

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I don't think I think another week man that Jason Cliffhanger play do this to me you tro yeah episode five is death stroke last time it's been several episodes yeah we got like five episodes three through seven yeah but he can't account books anyway I mean there's really not much to say about the comic book issue it was good it was fine it's setting stuff ups in buddy overall I do I do think it's bad I mean it's still grittier than I would like a feel like Alan put on a meat out basically downloading all these talent memories if that's how they're going to reload his memories GonNa have it it will be shot God that was rude and are going to have to fix him but I knew connor was deny yeah they've played with that before like super but it was still pretty but it was still a cliffhanger like I've said before that was kind of my jam like Oh Prison Dagan like not in each other anymore and Dick like being the dead feel like I guess because it's pretty gritty everybody is a little less talkative with each other than they often are in the comics Bad Hang with the big subs obviously to talk about episode seven but which reminds ghosts We get the back a little bit warm and fuzzy I mean particularly for titans they were warming but they were already fuzzy but now it's gone a little less he's GonNa make it like on ninety five percent coffin it he's GonNa make it but that five percent was played with it too 'cause like back when he died nine hundred that he's destined to fail there is You I'm sure you probably get this hails the dark multi-diverse it's bad I haven't gotten to yet because I mean I don't really know Hawk and dove their material outside the ticket dawn granger But I just Jason Dodd Aker face himself for everyone but he draw yet death stroke jobs jason up the building then they make us wait we see the origin yes he did say yes yes because then I was not nearly as stressed out about connor like I think Charlie was saying I guess people expect like you know more were adult language more nudity more violence when they're actually paying well he'd better be digging said Rick Oh yeah that's what I think that that was the whole thing he's getting his memories back and not name thank God that might be the Grayson like revival of the titans were once everybody's trying to go to Donna she's like I need time to my settled leagues alive and like sometimes there was a little bit of drama from that because they were like talking to each other all the time and I know sometimes Dada would be let go night the titans were before I think Oh yeah so that so that annoys me a little bit too often in shows movies on like people just Dad Oh that's cute a nose I felt like the first I mean after they defeated drag on Virginia drag on the first two episodes open your mouth and talk I mean they're dragging out the drama and I get the gritty too I mean as a father liked to be able to watch this show with my son but it's like because I mean that I thought was one of the cool things about teen titans at new jazz they like they talked to each other and talk out their problems yeah but I was just like his communist psychotic break dislike looks in a one hundred percent is enact clearly the whole time kind of a serious I mean I guess yet they're doing it for the show the new rep but I mean if it real life if you are really seeing someone who isn't it after Momma I'm not your counselor kind of thing in everyone is very much driven bottled up inside them I mean very much dick but also the number to vote whether he loves her dies they kind of made it seem like they're doing that too with this and I know so I mean I got then Connor episode which I thought was that hey we're not just randomly killing people all the time to talk to win agreed he actually did just knock him out and then leave and I was like just said the titans would more talk to each other and just the sort of casual otherwise you think they're actually doing a better job this season a of Hindi air and they're talking to you get yourself to a psychiatrist asap just has not although I wouldn't put it past Bruce Wayne like Lisi psychiatrists or psychologists because this is not a serious thing like you need to go to therapy Jason.

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He's some therapy yeah yeah I was like even after you have your little confession legged the Sea Otter no it's it's it's hard to be cool so then here's a not cool implant a post hypnotic suggestion this head it's like hey you're about to go off the rails you're going to see and hear well there is that four I was thinking that are they going to one they said something about Oh he's trying to get one by one or something I was like always GonNa be you liked Donna some that others are kind of keeping it bottled up inside in hat fit with the show but it doesn't really fit with because it doesn't bother me at all the righteous you know and Y- I mean the main thing is unlike highs talk 'cause I felt like Kinda like Judas contract where he's trying to get everyone one by one but then Joey came in Jericho came in early so we're not going to exist we're having the in that episode I was like Whoa I mean I guess they're trying to use it as a as a metaphor for like this actually like these massive with the rest of them it's it's I'm telling you it's rose because look I mean she's kissing Jason this instead at eight blue teran Gar now it's an yeah I mean they're already been dragging dragon stuff out because can't talk to each other we ought to be like something's bothering you what is it I can't tell you right now yeah yeah I could see that yeah more right as early on probably after episode three Jason Definitely Needs Therapy especially not get it does really mess with all the Titans Li likely when Hank the past Bruce didn't I didn't think of that or maybe it's actually a projection really was bruce he's like you're I have this little thing that's GonNa Project me very high tracking chip Ya Holographic chip installed in your you have me there's Holographic me in your brain bad crowd so my hope my hope is because they give us these cliff hangers that have turned out that like it's like yeah murdered someone because I'm thinking that's not gonna work like then can't be I think it's going to be Donald Booze and stuff and now I'm sorry all right here's here's my theory instead of detail rose the trader is it take that person of the contract my assumption is because based on what Geoff Johns I think said yeah and I I could see them doing that I just wish they wouldn't know you wish they would add but that's why they're going to finer slade did get closer whatever and like he feels responsible like I killed him because what I mean think about it when he demands her back you know now no one suspects her being the trainer right but you know Jason Petch when roads with talking to Jason and she saw the things she said my death stroke kill my brother because he fell in issue about but then it turns out there result in good in a good way of life people not dying my whole because I really can't imagine that they would go so gritty is weakening I mean it looks like she found out the weaknesses through the Dick said he killed Jericho yeah now we've been like that it's going to be one of those things he's either going to be bringing him into this or do something yeah yeah I mean that's what any we saw at the end of that episode he was trying to be friends I think it's GonNa be he tried Jericho so that he could learn about is but now not so much in a good place So I think it becomes I think the financial I think the season finale is like he won't be I think he's not going to become less episode really the really GonNa make us wait till through a whole nother season yeah absolutely don't you think so breath I'm saying I think it's death stroke plan because I mean once everyone starts blaming Jason for leaving all this stuff we're moving stuff did you hear he said he's like oh I think I'd rather be with death stroke than with Forrester they're paying for a service but I mean I guess we want to be like I can't get on network I don't know yeah yeah I mean honestly Eric is in its rose rose I mean if there is a traitor unless it's destroyed actually sneaking around in the bill roses you know she seduced Jason She's find that everyone ask you that like not in a good place yet to being weighing in and I thought Oh you know the first couple of episodes outside he's God Batman they were GonNa Batman it was like the drug users be beat to death just just because he sons that much just you better be standing up for us to have that stress tab that stressed out cliffhanger thing like Mimic Jason the joker deserve to for someone to finally kill him like it wasn't necessarily us I think this is perfectly accurate to we weren't I'm pretty sure I think it might be that you always promoting for me but if not I know there's an interview where someone asked why did you have a job and he was like you guys Yep yeah but I think that was Jason Means Being Sassy now days days is definitely not the traitor right yeah so that's the thing but did you catch that so I was like but did you so we have to see what happens then hopefully it'll go and tell everyone in the clear the air the law be like what a let's all you know I that's not who he is but anyway that's what better avenue but of course I imagine that will get like back in time one time that it took his legs secretly this killer is much more like that much more violent I mean most of the time they go for Draymond hey everyone it's another month means it's time for another nightly news I am filled joining me as always is kristen stories done okay we take Jason he jumps off the roof or does not jumps off the roof I mean he doesn't kill himself and we go downstairs a joke that he the joker so bad that joker die for hot second joke laugh but then revived him in its go k.

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and actually you know and I'm like true we'll take it thought that T- timid died as a result and then he was also mocking actually killing people I know people I mean there's the blockbuster thing like I could wipe with like no you didn't you dislike didn't stop somebody else from killing blockbuster with again hey guys I gotta tell you this was like oh gas could also like stop being a loser you didn't really murder him get your shit together that's just not one thing that makes sense in that situation does before chasing came back so he it's Dick was yeah that's what I hope because I mean honestly I feel like if they want us to still like Dick and they wanted to still be a reasonably accurate representation certain J.

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The joker just murdered a second Robin Yeah I was just saying I don't think the killer I know there was that one time 'cause I like out like I did like I killed him because I did try to use him against stroke I don't think he like oh but I can't imagine would be suber pissed if it really is going to be a way to gritty and I know feels a gas that was at one time that he mocking Jason when it so yeah I mean if fits I don't think that's life assign because he'd be the job of that got to give the death stroke and handle throw out you know at least once in episode what the F. Word you think in something like that but they'll be like yes breads again there's going to be there's going to be at least a partial flashback next episode could the title Paul Jericho so I assume most of it be slash Beck who is at my hope is that the flashback is lake on telling Jason The story and then it's like to do and they'll find out tears the trainer some point rose yeah I guess Oh yeah yeah I mean sort of like did you actually you know kill him cutthroat whatever you you didn't really do it let's go more than is responsible for Jason's death kind of kind of thing Like hopefully will stop having mark secrets and he can go on to be I think I think the last episode will be night wing and that's when hill outfit and district will be defeated an who I mean I guess hopefully they follow kind of Judas contract something I think they're going to save the contracting is that that's why I think it will happen until the last episode the One thing that makes me wonder is I've been doing a lot of heroin if you will without wearing their outfits just kind of weird to me so I'm not quite know what's up with that was especially we'll take everybody will my one morning won't take he'll go after Dick Dick will be like all season eighteen episodes this season yeah so that's that's the only reason why I feel like if they were hearing everyone else was like hearing in their property I mean you went to visit Benny and he like remember you remember what kind of don't you like I mean since you're not just like Joe Nobody here award of like one of the most famous men in the world you know I'm trying to pick refloat not there somewhere I mean you like us to live in San Francisco only five years ago Haughey he yeah I don't know I'm not sure why they're not doing this gave again that's the thing it's like it the placating award says a lot of it is just staring at it right yeah so I'm not quite sure why like the old to Gotham or something yeah yeah played with us comic Bruce Wayne Teas that night wing thing because he was standing in front of his old he he can't be a murderer he just better not be and so that will get everyone will be like Oh stop feeling guilty like yeah that was a jerk move in high can't remember it's five years you know it's five years say five year I wasn't when they first talked about the defeat of death stroke for the first episode next season the last I'm telling you the last like couple the last minute or two of that episode is that everyone's Alice's captured the last minute we're just GONNA see him for not costume mouth Oh wow okay it'll be kind of like the opening of this season was Bruce Wayne Hallucinations but I guarantee you once he puts that suit on those Bruce Wayne Hallucinations are gonNA stop right yeah no definitely definitely so that he was gonNA actually go talk Bruce but as soon as bruce started talking in the room bruce was all thrown out the effort and stuff I'm like imagining this is not real bruce going out but it is going out with partly gadgets and I think presumably he will realize I wanna be I wanna Astute and just stick wasn't it would get it but I think based on jobs on your like he has to be in a good place kind of thing that okay will realize yeah the end the season to the cliffhanger that said slaves captured everyone else index gotta put a suit on all right I mean that's one thing is I wanted to kind of Julius I was thinking if you like that episode he would you know put it on go save everybody I'm calling it now the final okay as he was wearing that good job but still I think area be yeah he's going to need an identity especially I'll know if we're going to get more if all the original titans will will stay earth that's the reason they're expanding is because people back yeah yeah I can I can see that because that's the thing like why does he need a soon gonNA censor they kind of Parse it out little by little dislike that's the only problem my only problem with I wish they would move these things along a little faster especially since you asked like third that'd be good I hope that's what that's what happens because I also want so you know one of the episodes dawn was like we need to get out of this tower down but my hope is that once stuff gets fixed up that the I'm trying to use Jerry Code against his dad you didn't actually kill him so you know kind of like Brazil like aren't responsible for Jason's death it's like non-producer the joker it'll be a hero and he was just like I know and it's just like when not one episode was he wearing a bulletproof Fastow's like really yeah I mean obviously we like but but like these boy is really not getting his his do an raven they kinda contract next next season and try to focus more because we're still getting a lot of focus on you know Dick realize they need you know the unusual new place where they can be together in the realize is a good thing for the titans I in court I mean like Dick and Jason are getting a lot of time which who but we we only got like a few minutes Eh doing backup I think it's it's going to be most if not all of them we're gonNA stay and be on the team and I think it's going to be like Oh you know now night wing now I have this addict he's not even like wearing anything over his is nothing right yeah I'm like what's going on here I mean you're the you're the either this this season I mean she needs to yeah I mean there are so many things that they could do you know are they going to go to Tampa anyway yeah stories like didn't you just say so right yeah that was cool because I wanna see Corey they haven't really done like a lot with corey okay you know that there's no more secrets you know there's no secrets between any of US anymore exactly I do Kinda want her of trying to Osa using they won't even disrobe until now him put on the suit Oh wow okay alive yeah of cour- the Arabian yeah yeah so I mean connor he's barely you could do something with brother blood I mean it'd be very I mean that'd be very timely because brother blood I mean creepy co-leader that's men so who know anyway yeah of course that a cliffhanger projects like district son so for some reason I was like Oh Brucie calendar tower then the Allen Don walked in and he wasn't there I was like okay as soon as down talking I was like this is fake Bruce I if he was gone that stuff never goes out of style sadly I mean yeah they will punch I mean the what does that the ties they can do hive so give it a grudging credit for that big cliffhangers coming at the end of the season commuting times went for a long time and there's lots of potential stuff there I mean they're obviously jumping in all around both fragment and flow like literally will be the last minute that the last episode will be everybody getting captured the finals like dress obviously would try to either the big tear of trying on actually came after Judas Contract Dick was night wing but search whatever you know what was you know was up with her is she gonNa what's her decision going to be about Oh yeah because I think I needed to continue improving it's closer to the comic than season was especially in relation to Dick Grace they want to play quarterback I wonder if season three I wonder if they're going to go into space or anything I mean that could be cool black fire is gonNA come a long season of just getting together I mean it would be honestly even seasoned to kind of is I think it might be nice to have a season that was like now we're all heroes survey thing about cancelling anything else which is which is good because even though it's still a little too gritty I can see I mean it's I guess it would just be I mean is the one was just like getting together I mean like it was a hoarder the yards against by the judge whether stuff gets renewed yeah I mean the only thing they ever said they said they were they weren't making more of a swamp thing besides that titans went to Timur in the world they mentioned black fire right I mean because there's lots of potential I mean they're using some different characters in this season so all right okay hey favorite what are some favorite moments from this season so far I love when on like introducing yeah people bow hopefully but at least a team we kind of know like the team you know I assume they're doing a third season at said yet they they haven't said but I would assume I mean I guess I don't know whether like stick is what let's do hero things I know the season one which just weird with the whole road trip thing and it's like they were they had the introduce so much it's like oh here's Hawkins here's do patrol there because like that's kind of what she is not that much older I don't know how will we supposed to be but I just feel so often like yeah he's been good crypto actually superman and lex luther the cars people have made about likely they're not spot on at these huge big secrets from the past they're just like okay now let's like fights crime fighting crime collar book by which is that would that was good the connor stops been good super bowl that could be interesting actually commission where they can just like hero Yup obviously yeah it would be

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