The \u201cDecade of Building State Capability\u201d podcast series features interviews with practitioners who reflect on their experience using the PDIA approach and their engagement with Building State Capability over the past 10 years.\n\nOn today's episode, BSC Director Salimah Samji interviews Kirk Gibson. Kirk is an international development practitioner working in the Pacific, Timor-Leste and Australia for over 15 years. He has worked on education, governance, leadership, workforce development, TVET and youth development projects for a range of NGO\u2019s and Australian Government funded programs. He is passionate about the thinking and thinkers behind community development and about supporting locally led development. He currently works for a Papua New Guinean led organisation called The Voice Inc.