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Rijndael is the CTO of Taproot Wizards \u2013 a group of bitcoiners who want to make Bitcoin magical. In this interview, he talks about why OP_CAT matters and what kind of features we should expect to see in Bitcoin once a covenant soft fork gets activated.\n\nTaproot Wizards and Bitcoin Magic (00:01:53) \nMemes as Tools for Bitcoin Advancement (00:03:20) \nDiscussion on Taproot Wizards' Intentions (00:03:47) \nRijndael's Background and Work (00:06:38) \nDiscussion on BitKey Hardware Wallet (00:09:12) \nStatechains and Drivechains (00:20:06) \nLayer Two Labs and Paul Sztorc\u2019s Message (00:26:03) \nTaproot Wizards Funding Accusations (00:28:16) \nCryptography and Scaling (00:31:53) \nStark Proofs and Scalability (00:33:06) \nLayer Two Solutions (00:36:33) \nBitcoin's Evolution (00:38:51) \nLightning Network (00:42:21) \nIs Stacks a Layer Two? (00:47:39) \nFuture of Liquid and Lightning (00:49:41) \nLightning Network and Liquid (00:50:35) \nOrdinals and Flywheel Effect (00:52:13) \nNon-Custodial Lending and Trading (00:53:17) \nCovenant Proposals and Bitcoin Upgrades (00:57:54)\nCAT Opcode and Bitcoin Development (00:59:32) \nOP_CAT Activation and Community Perception (01:03:25) \nOcean Mining and Network Control (01:09:25) \nBitcoin Purifier and Transaction Rejection (01:12:55) \nBitcoin Development and Narrative Control (01:15:36) \nCasey and Runes (01:16:19) \nSimplicity and Protocol Design (01:17:19) \nUser-Friendly Implementation of Runes (01:20:11) \nUse Cases and Challenges of Ordinals (01:22:34) \nGreat Script Restoration and Controversy (01:24:26) \nOrdinal Inscriptions and Scarcity (01:27:21) \nFuture Projects and Layer Twos (01:30:25) \nTaproot Wizards' Presence and Conference Participation (01:36:55) \nAddressing Critics of Taproot and SegWit (01:38:04) \nData Embedding in Bitcoin Transactions (01:38:42) \nThe Cat Chain vs. Dog Chain (01:41:10) \nSetting Up a Live Stream (01:43:00) \nFollowing Taproot Wizards on Twitter (01:44:25) I\nInternational Travel and Visa Issues (01:45:07) \n\u201cReagan Dial\u201d (01:46:20) \nFinal Remarks and Invitation to Follow Taproot Wizards (01:46:48)