This week, I\u2019m joined by Mac, who plays in Off Brand and previously in Pluto Rest in Peace. We talked about music education, academia, music composition, and what we\u2019ve been listening to lately. You can find Mac on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/notthatmac/\n\n--- \n\nSupport this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/santiagoramones/support