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I'm super happy to have had Nick Ley join me on the podcast. Nick is a father, husband, teacher, and musician. He plays with Colourmusic, The Flaming Lips, and The Brothers Griiin. He's also the program director for Music Business at ACM@UCO. He's really freakin' cool. We talked about music, business, and he gave some great advice on making a living being a musician. Get to know Nick! You can follow him on Instagram @nicholas_ley or you can find his bands here:\nhttp://www.colourmusic.net/\nhttp://www.flaminglips.com/\nhttps://brothersgriiin.weebly.com/\n\n--- \n\nSupport this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/santiagoramones/support