Moving Beyond Fair to Build a Great Relationship with Nate and Kaley Klemp

Published: Nov. 21, 2022, 11 a.m.

These days couples often shoot for 50/50 in their relationships: an even split of responsibilities in the home or at work. But 50/50 often leads to fights over fairness, and this fixation on fairness can be the death of many relationships.\nOn this episode of Being Well, Forrest and Dr. Rick are joined by Nate and Kaley Klemp to explore how we can build fun, fulfilling, and truly equitable relationships. Topics include Nate and Kaley\u2019s early relationship struggles, different models of relationship, breaking out of old patterns, and how we can manage situations where one partner really is contributing significantly more than the other.\nAbout our Guests: Kaley Klemp is an executive coach and expert on small-group dynamics, and Nate Klemp is a bestselling author and founding partner at Mindful, one of the world's largest mindfulness media and training companies. Together, they\u2019re the co-authors of The 80/80 Marriage: A New Model for a Happier, Stronger Relationship.\xa0\nWatch the Episode: Prefer watching video? You\xa0can watch this episode on YouTube.\nKey Topics:\n0:00: Introduction\n1:45: Nate and Kaley\u2019s personal relationship as a basis for their work\n5:30: Three different models of relationship\n9:30: Two pillars to 80/80 - mindset and structure\n12:20: How a 50/50 dynamic caused problems for Nate and Kaley\xa0\n19:20: The conscious or unconscious division of roles\n21:30: Gratitude and generosity\n25:40: Parenting, shared success, and being on a team\n32:15: Getting your partner\u2019s buy-in, reveal and request\n39:50: Underlying beliefs and power imbalances\n44:20: Creating structure (and data) to have difficult conversations\n49:30: Distinguishing a reluctant partner from an unwilling partner\n52:05: Key skills that distinguish successful couples\n56:10: Recap\nNew Course From Rick! Learn the lessons of a lifetime in the new and improved Foundations of Wellbeing 2.0 program. This yearlong, online program teaches you how to grow the 12 key inner strengths that lead to lasting wellbeing during difficult times. Our New Year's sale is running now, and you can use the code BeingWell25 to get an additional 25% off the purchase price.\nSponsors:\nWondrium helps you learn anything! Right now, Wondrium is offering our listeners 50% OFF their first three months. Sign up today at wondrium.com/beingwell.\nBeing Well is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/beingwell for 10% off your first month!\nWant to sleep better? Try the Calm app! Visit calm.com/beingwell for 40% off a premium subscription.\n\xa0\nConnect with the show:\n\nSubscribe on iTunes\n\nFollow Forrest on YouTube\n\nFollow us on Instagram\n\nFollow Forrest on Instagram\n\nFollow Rick on Facebook\n\nFollow Forrest on Facebook\n\nVisit Forrest's website