Evolving Our Approach to Treating Trauma with Dr. Bessel van der Kolk

Published: Oct. 17, 2022, 10 a.m.

On today\u2019s episode of Being Well, Dr. Bessel van der Kolk, the author of The Body Keeps the Score, joins Rick and Forrest to explore how trauma keeps us stuck, and how we can use imagination, self-expression, and creativity to break away from those old patterns. Along the way they talk about using somatic and non-cognitive interventions, internalized abuse, the value of a developmental perspective, using psychedelics for complex trauma, some of the problems with modern psychiatry, and how we can cultivate an equitable, flexible, and compassionate approach to treatment.\nAbout Our Guest: Bessel van der Kolk is a professor of Psychiatry at the Boston University School of Medicine and president of the Trauma Research Foundation in Brookline, Massachusetts. He\u2019s also the bestselling author of The Body Keeps the Score, which is one of the most influential modern books in the field.\xa0\nKey Topics:\n0:00: Introduction\n1:15: Imagination and aspirational thinking in healing trauma\n4:55: Creativity and cultural context\n6:10: Where a sense of agency begins\n8:40: Why people internalize abuse\n16:30: The many practices for redefining past traumas\xa0\xa0\n22:10: The state of psychedelic research and the importance of patient care\n29:15: The need for new approaches to diagnosis and treatment\n34:00: Issues with the DSM-5 and the need to integrate interpersonal processes\n38:50: What counts as trauma? Collective trauma?\n42:25: The need for cooperative strategies confronting trauma in pro-social movements\n45:15: What helps people resource themselves to create change?\n51:45: Recap\nNew Course From Rick! Learn the lessons of a lifetime in the new and improved Foundations of Wellbeing 2.0 program. This yearlong, online program teaches you how to grow the 12 key inner strengths that lead to lasting wellbeing during difficult times. Our New Year's sale is running now, and you can use the code BeingWell25 to get an additional 25% off the purchase price.\nSponsors:\nJoin over a million people using BetterHelp, the world\u2019s largest online counseling platform. Visit betterhelp.com/beingwell for 10% off your first month!\nWant to sleep better? Try the Calm app! Visit calm.com/beingwell for 40% off a premium subscription.\nConnect with the show:\n\nSubscribe on iTunes\n\nFollow Forrest on YouTube\n\nFollow us on Instagram\n\nFollow Forrest on Instagram\n\nFollow Rick on Facebook\n\nFollow Forrest on Facebook\n\nVisit Forrest's website