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Apologetics Live 0047\n\nAndrew Rappaport hosts a debate Debate: Baptism Does Not Save Men (Baptist vs. Lutheran). This is a formal debate between Ken Cook and Rob Barnhart.\n\nThe computerized transcript is below, it was not edited.\n\n\n\nThis podcast is a ministry of Striving for Eternity and all our resources\xa0strivingforeternity.org\n\nListen to other podcasts on the Christian Podcast Community: ChristianPodcastCommunity.org\n\nSupport Striving for Eternity at http://StrivingForEternity.org/donate\n\nSupport Matt Slick at https://www.patreon.com/mattslick\n\nCheck out all of the great apologetic resources at CARM.org\n\nPlease review us on iTunes\xa0http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/rapp-report/id1353293537\n\nGive us your feedback, email us\xa0info@StrivingForEternity.org\n\nLike us on Facebook at http://www.facebook.com/StrivingForEternity\n\nJoin the conversation in our Facebook group at http://www.facebook.com/groups/326999827369497\n\nWatch subscribe to us on YouTube at http://www.youtube.com/user/StrivingForEternity\n\nGet the book What Do They Believe at http://WhatDoTheyBelieve.com\n\nGet the book What Do We Believe at http://WhatDoWeBelieveBook.com\n\n\n\nDebate: Baptism Does Not Save Men (Baptist vs. Lutheran) \n\nAndrew Rappaport: [00:00:00] Alright. We are live apologetics live. Glad you\u2019re with us. We\u2019re going to have a little bit of a different show here tonight. This will. A live debate. We are going to be having and this is between well we\u2019re going to have the topic I should start with that.\n\n[00:00:16] The topic tonight will be baptism does not save men. The person on the pro side of this debate will be Ken Cook. He is a Baptist and on the negative side will be Rob. He is a Lutheran so there\u2019s differing views that we have their this is part striving for eternity. You can hear this on podcast on the Christian podcast Community go there to ChristianPodcastCommunity.org to check out all of our podcasts that we have.\n\n[00:00:47] So real quick. I\u2019m going to bring both Ken and Robbin so that they could quickly introduce themselves. And then we\u2019re going to start the way we\u2019re going to do this as. Guys already know that because they gave me the times we\u2019re going to do fifteen minute openings for each of them. We\u2019re going to do a 10 minute rebuttal for each.\n\n[00:01:07] Obviously the opening we\u2019re going to start with Ken and then we\u2019ll do the rebuttal will start with Ken then we do the cross-examination ten minutes each. We\u2019re going to do a five minute rebuttal for each and then a 10-minute cross-examination and then 10 minute closing arguments. And so that\u2019s going to be the format for this too.\n\n[00:01:28] If Rob is doing too well in this debate, I\u2019ll just cut his time in half being a Baptist. I have wait. That\u2019s not the way it\u2019s supposed to work. Rub. I\u2019m sorry, no will be fair.\n\n[00:01:41] We got to try to get everyone laughing before the debate starts. Right? So Ken why don\u2019t you introduce yourself first and then robbed after that.\n\n[00:01:52] Ken Cook: [00:01:52] Perfect. My name is Ken Cook. I\u2019m here in Portland, Oregon. I am a Reformed Baptist. And I\u2019m very excited about tonight\u2019s debate. I want to thank especially my wife who\u2019s at home with our five children that enabled me to be here to nice quiet place tonight.\n\n[00:02:11] Andrew Rappaport: [00:02:11] You really going to wear that hat, huh?\n\n[00:02:13] Ken Cook: [00:02:13] Oh, yeah.\n\n[00:02:16] Andrew Rappaport: [00:02:16] Rob go ahead introduce yourself.\n\n[00:02:19] Rob Barnhart: [00:02:19] Hi, I\u2019m Rob Barnhart. I\u2019m a confessional Lutheran. There is a distinction there there Andrew not all Lutheran\u2019s and sadly our professional. I\u2019ve long time listener of striving for eternity Ministries and conquer the world. That\u2019s how I know about interrupt Port.\n\n[00:02:38] That\u2019s it. Just recently. Met Kendall Cook. I do want to kindly just ask those people that if you are interested in this debate and you have got some kind of enjoyment out of it. If you wouldn\u2019t mind at least donating $5 to CARM.org,