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Today I'm joined by paranormal corespondent Jim Perry of the podcast Euphomet and Sapphire Sandalo of the podcast Stories With Sapphire as well as the TV shows Ghost Town Terror, Paranormal Caught On Camera, and Paranormal Nightshift. We'll discuss what it\u2019s like to work on very different kinds of projects in the supernatural sphere and get a little behind the scenes look at classic reality ghost shows. We\u2019ll talk about the dream of diversifying away from the formulaic industry of ghost bros and Christian-influenced endings to allow the paranormal to take different forms, understood in different ways by very different kinds of people.\n\nDonate to PCRF\n\nLearn more about Sapphire's work\nLearn more about Jim's work\n\nGo to Quice.com/hysteria to get free shipping and 365 day returns\n\nHosted Chelsey Weber-Smith\nProducer and Editor: Miranda Zickler\nAssociated Producer: Riley Swedelius-Smith\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices