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The two party division of the US political system is as evident as ever as we warm up to the 2024 elections. But where does this state of affairs come from?

Don speaks to Michael Barone, political analyst, historian and journalist, to find out more about the history of the Democratic and Republican parties, their forebears, and the possible downfall of political parties.

Michael is author of \'How America\\u2019s Political Parties Change (and How They Don\\u2019t)\'. His new book is \\u2018Mental Maps of the Founders\\u2019.

Produced by Sophie Gee. Edited by Tomos Delargy. Senior Producer was Charlotte Long.

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