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This week on the podcast, Dan Neumann is joined by AgileThought colleague and return guest, Eric Landes! Eric Landes comes from a DevOps background and originally started as a developer. Currently, he serves as a Senior DevOps Consultant, ALM Director, and Solutions Architect at AgileThought.

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In today\u2019s episode, Dan and Eric are discussing organization transformation. If you haven\u2019t already heard Agile Coaches\u2019 Corner ep. 59, \u201cThe Four C\u2019s of Organizational Culture,\u201d you should tune into that first, as this episode makes reference to it. Today\u2019s episode, however, is asking the question of whether an organization should start by implementing a practices-based change or a culture change when they\u2019re looking to transform.

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Is starting with changing the culture a more practical approach, or, is keeping the culture as it is and incorporating more Agile practices overtime more beneficial? Tune in to hear Dan and Eric\u2019s take!

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Key Takeaways

A culture change approach vs. a practices-based approach:

A practices-based approach generally refers to making small changes to behavior

A culture change is much more of a big bang whereas a practices-based approach is more of an Agile journey

A culture change is more of a plan-driven, A-B transformation and a practice approach is more an incremental, step-by-step process

The argument for taking a practices-based approach to transforming an organization rather than changing the culture first:

The ability to change practices and shift the overall mindset without changing the culture is a more achievable place to start \u2014 it\u2019s also more of an Agile mindset/method (because you\u2019re starting with a practice, seeing how it helps, measuring it, and then moving forward)

Practices get modified over time so it can be beneficial to be more Agile as your organization is going through a transformation (rather than going for that \u201cbig bang\u201d that a culture change would call for)

Putting practices into play (such as test-driven development, breaking down product backlog items, or implementing more Kanban metrics) can help the organization discover what fits and what doesn\u2019t fit into the current culture and also what delivers the most value to the customers

Using metrics and practices will lead to changes in thinking around how the organization is delivering

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Mentioned in this Episode:

Eric Landes (LinkedIn)

Agile Coaches\u2019 Corner Ep. 59: \u201cThe Four C\u2019s of Organizational Culture\u201d

The Reengineering Alternative: A Plan for Making Your Current Culture Work,
by William Schneider

Professional Scrum with Kanban Certification

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Eric Landes\u2019 Book Picks:

Training from the Back of the Room! by Sharon L. Bowman

The Color of Compromise: The Truth about the American Church\u2019s Complicity in Racism,
by Jemar Tisby

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