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Christine Converse and Ross Beurmann (who host the podcast A Couple of Coaches) join me for a conversation/debate about metrics. During the podcast, we discuss what metrics help create clarity for the team on how well they are performing and what metrics help highlight areas that could be improved. We weigh the pros and cons of standard Scrum metrics, Kanban metrics, and share the ones we each find most valuable. \n\nIf you are tracking certain metrics simply because Jira (or whatever tool you are using) tracks them, or someone else told you "THIS IS THE WAY," the question to answer is, if you were going to hire a metrics for your team, what job are we hiring the metrics to do? \n\nChristine and Ross also interviewed me for their podcast A Couple of Coaches about serving on the Scrum Alliance TAC and what it takes to become a Certified Scrum Trainer. You can check that interview out here: https://soundcloud.com/coupleofcoaches/episode-7-drunkenpm-crossover\n\nSam...\n\nApologies Sam Moore and Stax/Volt fans everywhere for using Sam as the underperforming team member in this discussion. Please listen to more Sam and Dave\u2026 it will be good for your soul.\nhttps://spoti.fi/3oruBIF\n\nContacting Christine Converse\nLinkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christineconverse1/\n\nContacting Ross Beurmann\nLinkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rossbeurmann/\nEmail: ross@rossbeurmann.com