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Recorded live at the 2019 North American Global Scrum Gathering, this episode of The Reluctant Agilist features a conversation with Scrum Alliance Chief Product Owner Howard Sublett. During the course of the interview, Dave and Howard discuss Dan Pink\u2019s opening keynote at the Scrum Gathering; the Scrum Alliance Labs and volunteer work that have been done to create a free library of material aimed at helping to develop a more mature and more highly-skilled agile coaching community; an update on how things are going with the recent shift in Scrum Alliance leadership moving to a Chief Scrum Master and Chief Scrum Product Owner instead of a traditional leadership model; and the video series Unscripted, which features updates from Howard and Melissa Boggs, the Scrum Alliance Chief Scrum Master.\xa0\n\nNote from Dave:\xa0at 15:38,\xa0something really important in this interview happens. Howard refers to a question he asked Melissa during the first episode of Unscripted. The question was \u201cHow are\xa0WE\xa0doing as a\xa0LEADER?\u201d It is a subtle thing, but language is a virus and words matter\u2026 \u201cWE\u201d is plural, while \u201cLEADER\u201d is singular. The way the question is encoded demonstrates a very subtle, but important aspect of an Agile mindset. Howard and Melissa have complimentary but different roles in the Scrum Alliance and the two of them together function as a single Leader.\n\nFailure Bow: I got The Wonder Twins (Zan and Jana) a little confused during the interview. I have brought shame upon my family and apologize to any comic geeks who were listening. If you are not clear on who the Wonder Twins are: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonder_Twins\n\nLinks from the Podcast\n\nScrum Alliance Labs: https://www.scrumalliance.org/labs\nUnscripted - To catch the Scrum Alliance Unscripted Videos, just follow them on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/scrumalliance/\n\nContacting Howard Sublett\n\nEmail: hsublett@scrumalliance.org\nTwitter: https://twitter.com/howardsublett