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When organizations begin adopting Agile, there are a number of business areas outside the teams that also have to change in order to create systems that can support this new way of working. Navigating this is always challenging, but it becomes even tougher when you need to have traditional (waterfall) and Agile work happening concurrently. This episode of the podcast features Ross Beurmann who is back to help explain how business planning can support both traditional and Agile time horizons. \n\nThis episode also features an update on the conversation Ross, his son Tom and I had recently about the work Tom is doing to create social and legal change in his local government. If you haven\u2019t had a chance to listen, you can check it out here. (https://bit.ly/2Fk6wAs) \n\nTo visit Tom\u2019s Facebook site:\nhttps://bit.ly/30R9SCo\n\nTo Contact Ross\n\u2022 Web: www.leadingagile.com/guides/ross-beurmann/\n\u2022 LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/rossbeurmannzcea/\n\u2022 Email: Ross.Beurmann@leadingagile.com