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In light of recent events with elder boards making decisions on allegations of abuse by pastors, a rebroadcast on one of our more popular and requested guests, Dr. Chuck DeGroat, seemed timely. Dr. Chuck DeGroat is Professor of Counseling and Christian Spirituality and Interim D.Min. Director at\xa0Western Theological Seminary\xa0 and faculty member for the Soul Care Institute.\n He is an author, speaker, consultant, and therapist. \nHe is a Minister of Word and Sacrament in the Reformed Church in America. He pastored in Orlando and San Francisco before transitioning to training and forming pastors. His experience includes training clergy in issues of abuse and trauma, pastor and planter assessments, church consultations, and investigations of abuse among pastors and within congregations. He has been featured on The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill podcast by Mike Cosper at Christianity Today in regards to the abuse of staff by pastor Marc Driscoll.\nChuck has been married to Sara for 27 years, and has two adult daughters.\nHe is the author of:\n\nWhen Narcissism Comes to Church: Healing Your Community from Emotional and Spiritual Abuse\n\nLeaving Egypt: Finding God in Wilderness Places\n\n\nWholeheartedness: Busyness, Exhaustion and Healing the Divided Self,\n\n\nToughest People to Love: How to Understand, Lead, and Love the Difficult People in Your Life -- Including Yourself.\n\nFollow Dr. DeGroat's work on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter\n*Several books are mentioned in this podcast that help in learning to discern the patterns of pastors who bully, intimidate and coerce their staff when it is not easy to see from the outside and is not something everyone on staff experiences. \n(If you are on a church elder board, or a church hiring committee, I highly recommend these books):\n\n\nA Church Called TOV: Forming a Goodness Culture That Resists Abuses of Power and Promotes Healing by Dr. Scot McKnight and Laura Barringer\n\n\nSomething's Not Right: Decoding the Hidden Tactics of Abuse and Freeing Yourself From Its Power by Wade Mullen\n\n\nRedeeming Power: Understanding Authority and Abuse in the Church by Dr. Diane Langberg\n\n\ufeffThe A World of Difference Podcast is brought to you in partnership with Missio Alliance.\nBecome a patron of this podcast, and enjoy free merch. Join other patrons of this podcast at Patreon. \nStay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen. \xa0 Find Us Online: @aworldof.difference on Instagram and A World of Difference on Facebook, on Twitter at @loriadbr & on Clubhouse @loriadbr.https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference or loriadamsbrown.comInterested in one-on-one or group coaching on how to live a life that makes a difference? Check out: https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching\nMentioned in this episode:\nDo you want to go deeper?\nJoin us in Difference Makers, a community where we watch and discuss exclusive content that truly makes a difference. Give us $5 a month (the price of a latte), and join in on the conversation with our host Lori and others who want to make a difference. We'd love to have you join us!\nPatreon\nJoin Difference Makers\nJoin us in our membership community for exclusive content for only $5/month at https://www.patreon.com/aworldofdifference. We go deeper with each guest, and it makes such a difference.\nPatreon\nThis podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Chartable - https://chartable.com/privacyPodtrac - https://analytics.podtrac.com/privacy-policy-gdrp\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices