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For the past five years, Rebecca Stott and a Russian friend have spent time together... digging heavy soil, planting hawthorn trees and pruning wild roses.

Veronika is a translator and a university lecturer, with a talent for gardening. She's helped Rebecca in her garden; Rebecca has discussed translations with Veronika.

Now, in the light of events in Ukraine, Rebecca talks about their friendship.

Producer: Adele Armstrong \nProduction Coordinator: Gemma Ashman\nSound: Peter Bosher\nEditor: Penny Murphy