This week, in episode 158, Paul Downs, Jay Goltz, and Sarah Segal talk about where the dust has settled after years of turmoil in the labor market. As you know all too well, we\u2019ve been through COVID, supply-chain issues, inflation, labor shortages, the Great Resignation, minimum-wage hikes, new pay-transparency regulations, and countless rumors of recessions that have yet to come\u2014all of which has had an impact on wages. And that\u2019s why I decided to ask Paul, Jay, and Sarah where their thinking has landed. The consensus here is that leverage is shifting back to employers, but Paul, for one, remains committed to paying his people more than they can find elsewhere. \u201cIt's worth it to me to have the team I want,\u201d he says. \u201cAnd sure, it affects profitability, but turnover affects profitability, too. And I'd rather not have that.\u201d Plus: We also talk about whether Lululemon was right to fire two retail employees who tried to stop a robbery, and we answer the following listener question: If something\u2019s not working, how do you know when it\u2019s time to walk away?