Replay: You Take a Stand

Published: Aug. 30, 2022, 9 a.m.

This week, in part because Loren\u2019s on vacation, we\u2019re offering a replay of an episode we recorded more than two years ago. It was one of our early episodes, and it was recorded shortly after George Floyd was murdered. In the episode, Karen Clark Cole, William Vanderbloemen, and Dana White talked about how they viewed their responsibilities as business leaders at such a fraught moment. What, if anything, were they saying to their customers? What were they saying to their employees? It started as a conversation, but Dana took the lead quickly and powerfully. She talked about what it\u2019s been like to so often be the lone Black voice in the room. She talked about what it\u2019s like for African-American employees to come to work and wonder where their company and their colleagues stand. She drew a line in the sand. \u201cWhy is it hard,\u201d she asked? \u201cYou\u2019re either over here, or you\u2019re over there.\u201d Even if you\u2019ve already heard this episode, we recommend listening again\u2014especially given that business leaders are again being asked where they stand on social and political issues, whether it\u2019s about race or abortion or the climate or democracy. If you haven\u2019t already heard the episode, we doubt you will soon forget it.