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This week, in episode 185, Jay Goltz, Jaci Russo, and Sarah Segal talk about whether it\u2019s finally time for Jay to enter the brave new world of task-management software. That\u2019s, in fact, what his two kids in the business are encouraging him to do. As it happens, Jaci and Sarah have tried most of the project-management tools out there\u2014Monday, Basecamp, Asana\u2014and they kind of love them, but with one caveat: They can be a lot of work. Which is all Jay needed to hear. After that, we talk about the challenges of managing credit cards and points, and Jay explains why, after 40 years, American Express is no longer what\u2019s in his wallet. Plus: the owners tackle a question posed by an entrepreneur with a very new startup: \u201cWhen does the anxiety of a new business subside?\u201d asks the newbie, which prompts some laughter and this answer: The anxiety subsides in the 42nd year, says Jay, who\u2019s been running his business for 42 years.