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Not all financial advisors are created equally. Some have certified credentials, some charge their clients fees, and others may get paid on commission (if they offer investment products). In part two of this podcast episode, our own Tom Romano, Head of Strategic Relationships and Product Development, is joined by Symmetry\\u2019s Michael Storer, Senior Regional Director, and a financial advisor from our sister firm, Apella Wealth, Peter Leppones, CFP\\xae, to discuss the important credentials of, and differences between, financial advisors.\\xa0

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Welcome back

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\\xa0to part 2 of choosing the right financial advisor. This

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\\xa0is Tom Romano with unfiltered finance and I\'m back

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\\xa0here with my guests. Mike store senior Regional director at

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\\xa0symmetry partners and Peter laponis financial advisor

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\\xa0and cfp at Apollo wealth. Thank you for joining us

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\\xa0gentlemen, so go Peter certified financial

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\\xa0planner see FP Mike. I\'m

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\\xa0asked this question to you because Peter is a cfp. What

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\\xa0are the credential what other credentials that investors should

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\\xa0be looking for as they\'re going through this process of choosing a

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\\xa0financial advisor. I mean cfp certainly is one of them sure. There\'s

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\\xa0you know, I mean I come across a wide variety

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\\xa0of different advisors and that have different different designations

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\\xa0and it and sometimes it

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\\xa0depends on it depends on you know, what type

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\\xa0of work they\'re doing for the client. It may not always be, you know

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\\xa0cfp, but most of the advisors that I\'m working with their

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\\xa0certified financial planners, but there\'s

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there\'s SEMA, you know, which is a certified Investment

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\\xa0Management associate, I

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\\xa0believe and that I look

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\\xa0at CFA and see Sima as kind of two different

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Are are very strong. I mean these people are incredibly smart.

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\\xa0They pass a lot of tests to get where they are. But I

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\\xa0look at the see the SEMA and the

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\\xa0the CFA which is a chartered financial

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\\xa0analyst as more geared towards Investments to

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\\xa0a certain extent. So they\'re if you\'ve

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\\xa0got an advisor that is more seamors or CFA oriented.

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\\xa0I think you\'re probably you could and Peter

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\\xa0you can correct me if I\'m wrong lean more

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\\xa0towards them probably approaching it from an investment perspective.

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\\xa0Whereas I think a cfp is

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\\xa0going to approach the relationship from everything

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\\xa0that Peter just talked about in terms of how they

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\\xa0want to how they want to work with you moving

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\\xa0forward Investments are important no doubt, but I think from

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\\xa0the standpoint of the approach if

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\\xa0you\'re looking for a planner, you know a cfp is

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\\xa0where you want to be if you want someone that\'s more focused on. Okay, I\'ll construct

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\\xa0a portfolio for you, but I think Sima and

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\\xa0CFA tend to lose tend to

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Themselves more towards investment only to a certain

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\\xa0extent now that\'s not every single or CFA but I think from that

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\\xa0perspective those types of designations. Those are the ones that I come across

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\\xa0primarily obviously, there\'s other designations with

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\\xa0the insurance realm that you know, you like a

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\\xa0chfc that would be which I

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\\xa0I don\'t even remember that. It\'s a chartered leave its chartered Financial

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\\xa0consult consultant, right which is different than a chartered financial analyst

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\\xa0which is kind of interesting but you know, they\'d be focused more on

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\\xa0and probably the insurance side of the investment process.

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\\xa0So I come across a lot but I would say

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\\xa0that I feel comfortable saying it that the

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\\xa0cfp is the designation where you know, mostly you\'re

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\\xa0going to be getting more of a planning approach. Whereas I

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\\xa0think the other designations might lean towards something else within

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\\xa0the whole scope of planning but more,

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\\xa0you know designated or specific on that

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\\xa0side sure. I think it\'s important, you know, individuals professionals

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\\xa0regardless of the industry having credentials after

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to the business. They\'re probably lifelong Learners,

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\\xa0which is something you probably want to look for in a financial advisor. And

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\\xa0I would agree with you a cfp

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\\xa0the SEMA the Cima in the CFA,

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\\xa0which I would agree are more investment driven.

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Um working with a firm who has a cfp has the point

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\\xa0of contact Peter, but that doesn\'t mean you don\'t have access to

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\\xa0cfa\'s and seamas as well. Right, correct. And

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\\xa0that\'s that\'s part of the teamwork approach here that you

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\\xa0know behind the scenes. I know that there\'s cfas working on our portfolios.

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\\xa0So so I think

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\\xa0you could see someone with another non-cfp designation

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\\xa0who works on the financial plan. So I mean to I think

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\\xa0you might be doing a disservice just because

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\\xa0the designation. But I do agree having a designation and you

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\\xa0too. Thanks for the reminder. I would say I didn\'t

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\\xa0mean to say that, you know, the cfp is definitely starting point. But Peter

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\\xa0brings up a great point that you when you visit with these cfps. They

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\\xa0do have those other.

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People in their organizations that cover those parts

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\\xa0So and I\'ve met many cfps that have their SEMA or have their CFA as

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\\xa0well. So depends on who I\'m speaking with, but there\'s there\'s a

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\\xa0wide variety of different designations and some have won

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\\xa0some have many or some have, you know, more than one right? So something

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\\xa0that you would recommend investors look for as they\'re gonna

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\\xa0go through absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah Mike we

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\\xa0for all the cfps out there yet. We\'re definitely the top

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\\xa0designation. No doubt about no doubt about it. We can

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\\xa0leave it at that. Very good very good. So I

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\\xa0have a few more questions and this has been great gentlemen, but

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What are some of the resources online resources

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\\xa0right, you know, I don\'t think people use phone books

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\\xa0anymore to find Financial professionals. What are

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\\xa0some of the things my gear you\'re working

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\\xa0with thousands of advisors. Like how do you how do you

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\\xa0go about and find an advisor that that you would want to work with

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\\xa0a professional level but not only professional of

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\\xa0us person maybe from even personal standpoint where can

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\\xa0investors go? Well they can they can you

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\\xa0know go online and you know, there\'s a couple of different organizations that

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\\xa0are out there that you could look at like the Financial Planning Association is

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\\xa0a great place to start that\'s that\'s a

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\\xa0big one National Association of

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\\xa0personal financial advisors is another great site

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\\xa0as well the certified financial planner

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\\xa0board. You can go that route as well. I mean,

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\\xa0that\'s probably the best place to start you can find someone in your general area

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\\xa0that could help you there. There\'s another firm out there

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\\xa0XY Planning Network which is which

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\\xa0is a pretty good tool for to search for fee only.

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Financial advisors you mentioned, you know

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\\xa0or family that may be working with a financial advisor. So all of

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\\xa0them are great great ways to to identify some of

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\\xa0that you might want to work with at least get the opportunity to interview them to see

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\\xa0if they would be a good fit for you. Yeah. I think there\'s a lot of great resources online,

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\\xa0you know, one of the things that Peter and

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\\xa0who understands you someone who\'s working with

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LinkedIn Facebook. Look, who are these?

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\\xa0Look who at the who these advisors are look at

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\\xa0the circles that they\'re in right? You know it a funny story my parents

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\\xa0who are not great investors. They were

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\\xa0financial advisor, they didn\'t look any

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\\xa0further than you know, the Connecticut Teachers Retirement Financial

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\\xa0advisory. It was a really long name like

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\\xa0that. I know I\'m butchering it and talking it right but they will

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\\xa0work Connecticut Teachers that must be the guy that we work with without even

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\\xa0thinking twice about it, but they knew they felt comfortable and

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Here to add to any of that Peter. I mean, I think that

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\\xa0you know, I\'ve had done. Oh my

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I won\'t ask that question better.

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You know, I\'ve talked about this it it\'s a mutual

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\\xa0interview between an advisor and an investor the investors making

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\\xa0a choice, but the advisors making a choice as well. So talk

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\\xa0encourage people to come up with a

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\\xa0list of questions and interview multiple

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\\xa0them as Gunslingers. They want to pick stocks. They want to

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\\xa0be in and out of the market they want they want action and I\'ve told

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\\xa0people I go I don\'t think we\'re gonna be a good fit. I\'m a

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\\xa0nice person. You seem like a nice person you seem to get along but

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we\'re going to have different philosophies and and I want

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\\xa0you to be happy and I don\'t want to waste your time and I

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\\xa0don\'t want to have my time wasted and so I\'ve had to tell people I just don\'t think

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\\xa0well a lot of debt, you know, you\'ve got

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\\xa0payments. Those are those are necessary. We\'ll call those

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I may not be able to work with you. I you may be better off going

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\\xa0not be a good fit. There wasn\'t a whole lot I could do because they

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Working on it\'d be more of sort of a credit agency

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\\xa0helping them to kind of get that square away. Absolutely. You

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Financial professionals as well. I mean maybe not direct financial

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\\xa0advisors, but tax advisors and things like that. Oh, definitely.

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So but I\'m working with.

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I\'ll work with the client\'s attorney to talk about their state plan

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\\xa0work with a client\'s accountant or CPA to

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\\xa0talk about if we need to do some rebalancing in the portfolio before

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\\xa0I do any of that.

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And start triggering capital gains. I want to make sure that the accountant is

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\\xa0pay it. It\'s another thing. All right, you know what we knew about this, but we know why we

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\\xa0same roof under the same corporate umbrella if you will but making

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\\xa0what the advisors doing on a day-to-day and that could be another point

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\\xa0of reference for a client. If you have an accountant who

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\\xa0or her in the way that they work maybe they could be a place

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\\xa0you a couple of places to go. Yeah, I think that\'s a great

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\\xa0lot and it\'s the notion of compensation for financial advisors.

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\\xa0that I don\'t pay my financial advisor or anything. He does

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\\xa0it for free sure right there is

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\\xa0there\'s a problem this industry, I think with transparency at times and

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\\xa0there\'s a number of different ways financial advisors are

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\\xa0being compensated. I didn\'t like frankly I think advisors should

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\\xa0be fairly compensated. They\'re doing really good work, right?

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Fee structures or compensation structures there are for financial advisors.

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\\xa0another I\'ll rattle them off because it\'s a

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\\xa0lot of different ones. There\'s feel only which we\'ve talked a little

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\\xa0bit about there\'s fee-based. There\'s Commission

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\\xa0another one I\'ve heard that I know is out there not as

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\\xa0popular but it\'s there and there\'s flat fee.

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\\xa0So there\'s a number of different ways that advisors are

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\\xa0of what I do on a daily basis working with us, I come across primarily

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\\xa0not always I would say fee only

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\\xa0less. So like a retainer I\'ve seen I\'ve come across that

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\\xa0but I say primarily it\'s fee only and fee-based that

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\\xa0I typically work with advisors and you know,

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\\xa0I\'ll let Peter elaborate but I\'ll just say generally that fee only would be

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\\xa0be it could be a flat fee or could be a fee based

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\\xa0on assets under management that the investor might have with that advisor

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The concept of building on assets but also the advisor

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\\xa0I believe Peter and so those are the two that primarily

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\\xa0I see in my kind of interactions with

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\\xa0or the commission side right there. There

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\\xa0are a number of different fee models out there in compensation models

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\\xa0and I think they all have their pros and cons but you

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\\xa0right?

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We talked about fiduciary.

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If you are paying a commission.

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Is your advisor acting as a fiduciary necessarily? Yeah,

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\\xa0being charged in a fee for your advice and

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\\xa0and whatever the the Investments would be. Where\'s fee-based

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On investment products. It\'s sort of

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\\xa0a gray area. They I don\'t

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\\xa0know if because we don\'t do that here, you know,

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\\xa0we don\'t have commission based investment products. It\'s strictly

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\\xa0putting people into no load low cost

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\\xa0paid a fee based upon those assets under management. We don\'t

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\\xa0have commissionable investment products to sell and if

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\\xa0knocking it. Just calling it

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\\xa0what it is. It\'s it\'s rot with conflicts of interest and

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\\xa0you just said something that I think would would mean

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\\xa0a lot to our listeners, right?

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percentage of assets fees paying fees you\'re paying

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\\xa0for advice in that fee stays the

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\\xa0same regardless of the investment product. It\'s a

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\\xa0with your charging 1% regardless of

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\\xa0the advice you give you earn five you earn that one percent rather.

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commissions

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Is in compensation for advice it\'s compensation

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\\xa0for selling a product and that product

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\\xa0has to be suitable not necessarily best interest.

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\\xa0that advisers get compensated fees versus commissions and

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\\xa0one other point that I\'ll make about fees and correct

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\\xa0me if I\'m wrong gentlemen if you\'re charging fees on assets.

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If the asset level goes up the advisor

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\\xa0gets paid more the asset level goes down. I

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\\xa0mean the percentage stays the same but the actual dollars change, so

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\\xa0I think that it actually aligns the interests.

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Of the investor and the advisor using a fee model

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\\xa0for Susan commission model where someone might

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\\xa0be asking you to buy a product that you may not necessarily

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Correct. And that\'s that\'s the thing. We you

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Whether it\'s Insurance products investment products that have commissions on

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Now all of a sudden it could be suitable. But if product

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A non-fiduciary advisor is probably

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\\xa0going to go to product B because it\'s going to pay him

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\\xa0or her more and it\'s a perceived conflict of

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\\xa0interest. I\'m not saying that every person out there who\'s earning a commission is

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Is not acting in good faith, but there

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\\xa0is there\'s a potential for that conflict to be there. Sure. It\'s

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\\xa0it\'s all things being equal right? It\'s they\'re gonna pick if it\'s

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\\xa0if it doesn\'t necessarily hurt the

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\\xa0client and all and the Investments are relatively the

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\\xa0same they\'re going to gravitate probably towards the higher commission product.

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\\xa0Not that it\'s a bad thing. But that\'s the conflict of

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\\xa0interest that we talk about right isn\'t necessarily in the best

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\\xa0interest of the client. Yeah, and I think investors don\'t need products as

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\\xa0much as they need advice. Yeah agreed. I totally agree.

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\\xa0We were talking the the other

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\\xa0day just that the the meetings we were we were at and

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\\xa0and the model the way it was is you

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\\xa0sitting at the top designing product and starting

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\\xa0to push that product down to advisors who would

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\\xa0then push it to clients down at the bottom and really our

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\\xa0model is where we flip the script.

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The client is at the top and the client comes to the advisor.

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And we then go out to the product manufacturers to

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\\xa0for the client to make as part of

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\\xa0their financial plan. So I think that\'s that\'s a big difference there.

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\\xa0We have nothing proprietary and we are acting in the best interests

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\\xa0of the client looking for a best of breed approach. And

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\\xa0again, usually it comes down to well, what

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\\xa0are the fees associated with that and that\'s another great piece of

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Understand who you\'re paying and what you\'re paying

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\\xa0understand what it what it is and and

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\\xa0how it works. You\'re the one paying it and and understand how

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\\xa0all of that works and a lot of times people don\'t realize

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\\xa0that because a lot of times things are are not

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\\xa0apparent you got to do a got to do a little bit of digging to understand

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\\xa0what those those fees are inside of certain products.

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\\xa0Yeah. Absolutely. No, no what you\'re paying and I think

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\\xa0that there are some compensation models for

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\\xa0advisor out that they\'re a little bit opaque if

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\\xa0working with the financial professional transparency matters,

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\\xa0and if someone\'s not being transparent, then there\'s

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So yeah, I have to disclose everything to everybody up

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It\'s coming out. It\'s coming out of the account and they\'ll see it right on the statement as

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\\xa0a line item to the penny. Yeah, exactly, except a

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Absolutely. Well gentlemen, thank you so much for your time. So I

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\\xa0just want to kind of recap because there was so much great information

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\\xa0that the two of you shared if you\'re an investor

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\\xa0out there if you\'re one of our listeners and you\'re looking to work with a financial

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\\xa0professional or if you\'re looking for maybe a second opinion a couple

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\\xa0of things that that Peter and Michael had talked to us

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\\xa0about today. Make sure you ask the question. Are you acting

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\\xa0in a fiduciary capacity? Probably the most important question to

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\\xa0ask a financial professional.

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Number two. What is your financial planning process? Right

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\\xa0the value proposition of a

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\\xa0financial advisor should be based on that planning process. And

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\\xa0since you are paying for advice, I think a great

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\\xa0question is what is your investment philosophy? How do you see the

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\\xa0world work? How are you going to advise me based on that investment

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When it comes to credentials, I think looking for any credential

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\\xa0makes a lot of sense after a person\'s name. But if you\'re

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\\xa0looking for a true financial planner, the cfp designation is the

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\\xa0one that that our guests recommend.

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Look for people that work with people like

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\\xa0you look for advisors that are working with people like yourself

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\\xa0and there\'s a lot of resources out there. Mike mentioned

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\\xa0Napa. There\'s the advisor\'s website. Of

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\\xa0course Facebook LinkedIn are great ways to look at how

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\\xa0people that may or may not be like you and let me throw another resource

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\\xa0out there. A lot of investors don\'t realize that you

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\\xa0can Google broker check broker check

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\\xa0is a government website where tracks the history

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\\xa0of every single Financial professional whether they\'re SEC

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\\xa0registered or member of finra and you\'ll

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\\xa0see if there\'s any disclosures or anything like that

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\\xa0so broker checks are great way to see if

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\\xa0if there\'s any dings on the record of

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\\xa0the person that you\'re speaking to and then in terms

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\\xa0of compensation look for fees versus commissions not

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\\xa0to say that commissions are necessarily bad, but they

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\\xa0there could be some conflicts of

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\\xa0interest in there and a fee-based advisor.

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Even a fee only advisor is going to sit in the same side of

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\\xa0the table as you the investor. So Michael, thank

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\\xa0you so much for your time. Thanks Tom Peter. So thank you

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\\xa0for joining us here today. This has been a great conversation and so

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\\xa0for our listeners out there. Thank you for joining us.

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\\xa0We\'ll get you on the next one. And if you

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