# 442 Grace w Gloria Carpenter
b'A beautiful lady named Shirley once said," The reason I give grace is because I so desperately need it." How do you define GRACE? The first response from our lovely guest is that \'Grace is an invisible energy all around us that excuses us all when we mess up." Cassey\'s first thought," Grace is a gift of permission that excuses me of my short comings." For Stacy, Grace is the the final step of forgiveness. What sin? What indiscretion? What bad choice? Relax with us a bit and open your mind to your concept of GRACE.'