# 197 Knowledge with Donna Marie Newkirk and Jen Anderson
b'There is a journey between knowledge and wisdom. Knowledge gained and not utilized is a Trivial Pursuit game in the closet. Spend some incredible time with Cassey Holland and two special guests, Jen Anderson and Donna Marie Newkirk. You are in for a thought provoking moment in time. Check yourself.. What do you do with the knowledge that you gain?'