b"We interview former Epoch Times writer Steve Klett about his time working for the Falun Gong-owned newspaper in 2016. We discuss his experience with a Dutchman, potential labor trafficking, and what it means to be a human bot.\\n\\nFollow Steve's new Mark Fisher podcast on Patreon, YouTube, or Anchor:\\n\\npatreon.com/user?u=92745822\\nyoutube.com/@LostFuturesPodcast\\npodcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/lost-futures"