223a The Lunatic Express; Open Phones: Travel Discoveries
b'Carl Hoffman explains what it was like to travel the world on the most notorious, over-crowded trains, planes, busses and ferries — the way most of the planet gets from one city to another. And listeners share their own travel discoveries and suggestions for seeing the world.\\n For more information on Travel with Rick Steves - including episode descriptions, program archives and related details - visit www.ricksteves.com.'