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Hello TNT listeners. Thank you for plugging into this episode. It’s a unique one; one I had the honour of hosting with two incredible human beings, Tessie Castillo and Terry Robinson, also known as Chanton.

To record this episode, Chanton who is incarcerated on North Carolina’s Death Row, currently fighting a wrongful conviction, needed to dial in via conference through Tessie’s phone, in order to join us. Twice. Why twice? Because there is a 15-minute limit on phone calls.

I’ve chosen to leave the audio running throughout the entire conversation so that you could receive the full emotional experience that Tessie and I got to experience.

Tessie Castillo is an author, journalist and public speaker who specializes in stories on criminal justice, drug policy, prison reform and racial equity. She co-wrote her first book, Crimson Letters: Voices from Death Row, with four men serving death sentences in North Carolina, whom she met while volunteering at North Carolina’s Central Prison in 2014.

Chanton, is a member of Tessie’s writing program, and when not writing stories to challenge the stereotype of people on Death Row, Chanton unwinds in the pages of fantasy books or hosts Dungeons & Dragons role-playing games. He is currently working on an urban fantasy novel and his memoir. His writing can be found on the blog, Walk In Those Shoes.

To learn more about Tessie Castillo: https://tessiecastillo.com/

To find Terry Robinson (Chanton) and his works: https://walkinthoseshoes.com/

For more Teresa Quinlan: www.iqeqtq.com

For more Rhys Thomas: www.truselfcoaching.com