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Published: March 1, 2023, 4:51 a.m.

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Hello from our normal, boring lives!\\xa0

Tammy returns from her reporting trip out West, and Jay is back at work after taking half his parental leave. It\\u2019s just us this week, talking through [3:20] the political disaster that has unfolded around the derailment and chemical release in East Palestine, Ohio. Plus, [28:25] a new Intercept interview with D.E.I. consultant Tema Okun, about her viral paper \\u201cWhite Supremacy Culture.\\u201d

In this episode, we ask:\\xa0

Have we learned anything since the 2016 election about the risk of ignoring working-class communities?\\xa0

How should the Democrats have responded to the derailment?\\xa0

Why are people so obsessed with the term \\u201cwhite supremacy\\u201d? What anxieties does it mask?\\xa0

Are diversity trainings really necessary?\\xa0

For more, see:\\xa0

* Our recent episode with train conductor Nick Wurst

* Field trips to East Palestine, Ohio, by Senator J.D. Vance and Trump

* Tema Okun\\u2019s interview with Ryan Grimm of The Intercept

* Okun\\u2019s original paper, plus the updated website

For our first-ever TTSG Movie Club, happening March 10th at 8pm ET / 5pm PST, we\\u2019ll be watching "Better Luck Tomorrow"! Join the TTSG Discord to attend the viewing. You can subscribe on Patreon or Substack.\\xa0

Thanks for listening! As always, follow us on Instagram, TikTok, and Twitter, and get in touch via email at timetosaygoodbyepod@gmail.com.\\xa0

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