Abolish ICE! And keep going. With Silky Shah of Detention Watch Network.

Published: Sept. 28, 2021, 10:46 a.m.

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Hello from Stuart\\u2019s Coffee in Bellingham!

This week, we welcome a special guest to talk about the immigrant rights movement and immigration policy. Plus, Andy and Tammy channel Jay Energy and answer listener questions.

(0:00): Andy and Tammy discuss Japanese food and our favorite chaebols.

(6:50): Listener Questions! What\\u2019s up with the \\u201cPI\\u201d in \\u201cAAPI?\\u201d listener SansMouton asks. We discuss the awkward origins of AAPI and why Pacific Islanders and Native Hawaiians shouldn\\u2019t be lumped into Asian America (cf. this random feature on Asian feelings in the NYT this weekend). But is there anything redeeming about a \\u201cPacific\\u201d frame? And what would be the Pacific version of Paul Gilroy\\u2019s Black Atlantic?

* Thanks to friend of the pod Amita Manghnani for talking through the local politics of \\u201cA/P/A\\u201d and recommending \\u201cAsian American Studies and the \\u2018Pacific Question,\\u2019\\u201d by Wesleyan anthropologist Kehaulani Kauanui.

(25:00): How should academics balance institutional responsibilities (and annoying prestige stuff) with teaching? listener Robi asks. Andy tries to punt the question to Tammy before laying out his own materialist approach.

(31:44): Silky Shah, friend of the pod and executive director of Detention Watch Network, explains all things immigration:

* Her Truthout article on the dramatic increase in immigrant detention under Biden

* How her corner of the immigrant rights movement become abolitionist

* Why borders are b******t

* The We Are Home coalition

* Links between immigration and foreign policy

* The Dems\\u2019 obsession with \\u201cdeterrence\\u201d

* Myths about immigration

* Why \\u201cAbolish ICE\\u201d isn\\u2019t nearly enough

* Recommended reads by Harsha Walia and Todd Miller.

For more on immigration policy, tune into this book event on Tuesday, Sept. 28, at noon EST, moderated by Tammy:

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