Published: July 1, 2021, 5 a.m.

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We all learn better when we have examples and stories. Today\\u2019s episode is the perfect combination of real-world examples and stories of one host navigating her podcast journey.

I can\\u2019t wait for you to hear my conversation with Cathy VandenHeuvel, host of The Caregiver Cup podcast and a Proffitt Podcasting alum.

In our chat, Cathy shares her podcast ups and downs, how listening to what her audience wanted resulting in a show rebrand, and how her lack of having to have everything \\u201cperfect\\u201d gave her the freedom to get her message out to the caregivers that need it most.\\xa0

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