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Can you awaken yourself while playing with a Ouija board?

Stranger things have happened!

Join me today as I explore the role that spirituality has played in the life of Mona Loring.

Founder of the following:

Mona founded MLC PR, a boutique public relations firm specializing in tailored publicity services. MLC PR maintains a  broad spectrum of clientele ranging from award-winning TV, film and  Broadway actors; musicians and record labels and more.

Mona launched Conscious Living simply due to my own personal passion for the mind, body and spirit connection. There was a hole in the market that was able to connect these areas with mainstream press and manage the brands and individuals within them properly. 

In addition Mona has her own holistic life coaching practice integrated with shamanic healing.

Where to connect with Mona:

https://www.conscioushealingco.com/

http://www.consciouslivingpr.com/

Transcription by Otter.ai

• brandon handley00:00:01Hey there. I've never done an intro for spiritual dope. But this is it. This is the intro for spiritual dope and today I have with me, Mona Loring who is a she's a PR
• 00:00:14Well, you're a founder right you own the business right you on a couple of PR businesses MLC pr, which is a boutique public relations firm specializing and tailored publicity services and, you know, one of the lines in this as I was checking it out. I loved it was a you're talking about
• 00:00:33The is the line because I loved it.
• 00:00:37I know there it was with ability vigor and charisma. I just loved how you run your business and I thought that was an I love that.
• 00:00:45And you also have conscious living pr, which is due to your own personal passion for the mind, body, and spirit connection you felt like there was a hole in the market that was able to connect these areas with mainstream press to manage the brands and individuals.
• 00:01:01Within them properly. Right. Let's chat a little bit about that one, and then
• 00:01:06As if you didn't have anything else to do with being a mother, first and foremost on top of all this, right, you've got this demonic energy work which you've got over here on conscious healing co where you do life coaching spiritual coaching energy work and all the things you
• 00:01:25Think why don't you know somebody, somebody like where do you find the time
• 00:01:29And I think, you know, at least it is for me when when some of these things, you're so passionate about. That's what lights you up. That's what gives you the energy to do it, you're like, Oh, I get to go do that.
• 00:01:40And you always you always hear people say, well, you got to change the I got to to I get to but you gotta change. Yeah, go to school, I get to so
• 00:01:49Thanks for joining me today. This is like a power punch. What
• 00:01:52Is something. What is something like we can celebrate for you. What's a spiritual high. Let's start off on a spiritual high. What's this recently.
• Mona Loring00:02:01Spiritual high that I've had recently. That's an interesting question. A spiritual I
• 00:02:08I mean I feel like so many things are spiritual high I think anything going right as a spiritual. Hi, I'm the first thing that came to my mind. So I'm going to honor that was a client referring me to another client because they love what I've done for them.
• 00:02:25That's a spiritual high because it was for my my healing work. So it's specifically that way to
• 00:02:30I'm nothing feels better than someone thinking that you know you've helped them so much they want to have somebody else.
• 00:02:39Be able to benefit from the work you do. Because, you know, again, we'll get into, and I'm sure but
• 00:02:43The reason I do the healing work is simply because I want to see other people heal because I know how rough life can be, you know, and so when someone saying, hey, can I give your information to a friend because you've helped me out so much like
• 00:02:58That's like the best time so I'm gonna go with that one.
• brandon handley00:03:01Yeah, no, I love that. Right. I mean, I think that kind of validates the work that you do too. Right. You're like, you're like, Oh my gosh, I really am helping people up to the point where like they've got to tell their friends about me. Right.
• 00:03:11Yeah.
• brandon handley00:03:14I'll celebrate those a spiritual high for sure. So here's the premise. Right. The show's premise podcast premise, whatever you want to call it.
• 00:03:23Is, you know, finding people such as yourself that have out within unlike this calling to do so much more and giving some disregard to the the norm normal constraints right of, hey, this is how you do it. These are aligned you stay within these lines.
• 00:03:39And to be okay.
• 00:03:40You're going to make through you're going to make it through the end of life. You may not like knock it out, but you're going to get there, fairly safe now what you've done is you said you know what, that's not how I feel. This is a feel right.
• 00:03:53I feel like I got to do this thing that's within me, and it is outside alarms.
• 00:03:58Now, number one, let's talk about like you're you're deciding to honor that. And I think, on top of that in the role that you've got right like you you manage high profile people right and and then you got to be like, but my heart says this, let's talk about
• Mona Loring00:04:16Well, I, there were so many different things. You said that was spawning different thoughts in my mind. But I mean, let's start with just the fact that you started saying
• 00:04:26You know, following your heart and and working outside of the norm and not having to necessarily stay within coloring within the lines, you know,
• 00:04:34Um, that's been an interesting experience for me, quite honestly, if I if I really look back my whole career in PR, at least, because
• 00:04:44I started out teaching myself publicity and that's at least back then, it was really unheard of, usually you would go get a job at a big PR firm, you'd intern for a while, and you'd be an assistant for years and then you'd move up.
• 00:04:57And with me, I realized now. It was my calling. Because I just
• 00:05:02Fell into it. You know, I had someone who said, hey, is the work you're doing PR because I really need a publicist, and I said, No, I'm actually a journalist. That's the opposite of PR and she said, that's all right. Don't worry about it. You're smart. You'll figure it out and
• 00:05:13Keeping the job. And that's how I actually started publicity. So it started from day one out of the norm. And when I track it back. I can literally just like look at the lines.
• 00:05:24That just like you follow the lines. And it's like, dot, dot, dot, put it all together. And it's been Spirit just guiding me. You know what I mean, like those I'm looking at those like number of
• 00:05:32Things that turn into a picture after a while, but you have no idea where you're going at the beginning. Feels like that.
• 00:05:36Yeah. And so really from the start. I never followed any rules and I really did. Just follow my instinct. I remember really early on.
• 00:05:46Meeting with this one client and
• 00:05:49He felt like I was BS in him because he was like, how do you know the answer to how you would do this when you're telling me honestly that you've only done PR for six months and you're painting your publicist, but you're and I'm like,
• 00:06:02I go with my gut and he was like that just feels like BS. And I was like, that's the furthest thing from me, you know. I just know what I should be doing for you, you know, um, I think that I've just always followed what feels good.
• 00:06:16And if something felt really wrong. I looked at it, you know, was it my own fear was it wrong because it really isn't right for me, whatever that may be. And
• 00:06:27If I felt like it's just really not right for me and I let it go.
• 00:06:31And that's kind of been the progression with my talent agency of just letting things go that we're feeling forced or not right for me.
• 00:06:38I don't care how big of an A Lister you are. I don't care what you've done. If you're not a good person. If you don't light me up if I don't get excited working on you.
• 00:06:47Know amount of money, no amount of cloud means anything to me, and people are starting to become more and more like that. I definitely have colleagues that think like that, that I was in my world. I felt like I was the only one at the beginning when
• 00:07:00You know, I shifted everything over. And I started conscious living and I caught my talentless down and people thought it was nuts. They were like, okay, the scrolls cracking up she's
• 00:07:08Letting go of these people that she's worked on for so long and they're finally at this level and
• 00:07:12She's starting some hippy dippy PR
• brandon handley00:07:15Firm, you know peace man hope everyone
• Mona Loring00:07:18But it's what I knew would light me up. I did feel like I had a hole in my heart. I felt like, you know, I'm doing all of this work right now and I didn't feel
• 00:07:30It's weird because I didn't feel appreciated. But it wasn't appreciation. I was looking for. It was like that fulfillment. I didn't feel fulfilled right and
• 00:07:39So when I started conscious living it definitely had a hiccups. It wasn't just like smooth sailing took a while to really get that running
• 00:07:48But at the end of the day, it just feels so right that I have both because I feel like I
• 00:07:55Am really great at doing the talent PR. It just, I get it, I can do it in my sleep. I know what people want. And I've learned over the years that being intuitive doesn't hurt NPR, you know, you really can be one step ahead of things.
• 00:08:08Um, but it's I just feel like anytime you feel like you need to stay within the confines of what you're expected to do. I'm trying to go back to your, to your original question, you know.
• 00:08:23you limit yourself and I just feel like this week. I feel like we've had this conversation before were truly humans are pretty unlimited, you know, at the end of the day, like we really don't have any limits, other than what we set ourselves energy is limitless, you know,
• 00:08:39We're all energy then we're technically. All right.
• brandon handley00:08:42Yeah yeah yeah like I mean when you when you kind of when you when you boil it down even even like your whole body is
• 00:08:51Some type of energy, right, like, and so the end of the day, like when you when you like I'll catch myself. Anyways, I say this myself like well I feel a little tired feel around. I'm like, wait a second. I am literally energy and I just like I boost myself right
• Mona Loring00:09:07A really good way to tell myself that makes me feel
• brandon handley00:09:10Right, like and and
• 00:09:12Yeah, truly limitless. But, I mean, I think I, I love, I love how you kind of view.
• 00:09:18You took a conscious living stand right you said and you let go of some people you broke out of a scarcity mindset, right.
• 00:09:27Was that an intentional thought then or is that something where you look back now. We're like, you know what, and I also think about this other one from Jim Rome, like you focused on the few that were meaningful right and they
• 00:09:39Are the ones that kind of lowers the most they're the ones that fulfilled you they're the ones that
• 00:09:44Were honor your time and appreciate your time and, you know, kind of like a pretty flower garden or something, man. You know what I mean, just like that.
• Mona Loring00:09:53That's
• brandon handley00:09:53Kind of how it worked out.
• 00:09:54Right, yeah, once you let go over, like all the shade throwers
• Mona Loring00:10:00Another yeah yeah
• 00:10:02And you know, I don't wanna, I don't wanna. I don't want to. What's the I don't WANT to hate on I hate. I don't like that term, but I'm gonna use it again think of something else right now.
• 00:10:10Right. But I don't WANT to hate on anybody that I had let go. In the past, but I would. It would be so sad for them to look back on this and feel rejected by me or
• 00:10:18Feel like I'm more than I think I'm better than them or anything.
• 00:10:21Sometimes it's not even that you're bad people. I saw this post the other day and it was so true.
• 00:10:26Sometimes it's not that you know the relationship you broke up with that person's a bad person, or, you know, if you let go of an employee that they're a bad employee. Sometimes you just
• 00:10:36Don't have that chemistry, you're not right for each other. You're not supposed to be on the past with each other, you know, and it goes into that other saying you're either a blessing, our lesson.
• 00:10:45And if you either. Wait. First of all, something turns out
• 00:10:48Back. It could be a blessing or less than either way. Right.
• 00:10:51And it doesn't mean that these people that I have let go, you know, when I'm hearing this, in my mind, I'm like, no, it's not that they were all. Some of them are
• 00:11:00All bad right it
• brandon handley00:11:01Should
• Mona Loring00:11:02Feel right they were the ones where I was like, you know, I feel like you have somebody else that needs to be in charge of your PR career. It's
• brandon handley00:11:09not you, it's me. Yeah, there's a reason why it's the same people who are totally nervous about confronting people
• Mona Loring00:11:17But that's not me know genuinely though. You know what I mean, like,
• 00:11:21I look back and I there's people that I let go of or you know that I've been let go from that.
• 00:11:29I root for them still to this day I'm fans of theirs. They're wonderful people they're brilliant actors, but
• 00:11:34They weren't for me.
• 00:11:35They're not supposed to be on my path, you know,
• 00:11:37And letting that go
• 00:11:39And having that open up the space that's something I try to teach my clients and my energy clients. I'll specify which
• 00:11:48You know, you have got to let
• 00:11:51Negativity and energy that's draining you that's not positive in your system. Go and allow room for more so, so many people are like, why can I manifest this, why can I have this. I've been working so far for
• 00:12:04X y AMP z and I can't get it and it's like, well, what do you, what do you need to let go of first room here.
• 00:12:11So you know if its energy than things fill up right and I seen on people's energy bodies and a lot of times when people are looking to manifest. I will see places where they need to let go of something and certain chakra, for example.
• 00:12:27And we let that go and put light in. And that light can then be the energy to magnetically pull. What you want to you.
• 00:12:35But if you're if you're holding in that that dark that you think that it would magnetically pull anything you know if anything is going to pull you think opposites attract, it doesn't work that way.
• brandon handley00:12:48Well, you know, a
• 00:12:52The whole letting go thing, right, because people are afraid to let go of of this in so many different like the energy they built up everything.
• 00:13:02everything they've done to get to this point to Scott them so tense. They want to hold on to that, like, Oh, I gotta keep all of this, whereas like Manny. I'm going to just need to let go. Some of this shit and once like it's like breathing out right like when you take a deep breath.
• 00:13:17It's actually when you breathe out that you actually feel better, not everything you take in. It's like
• 00:13:21I'm like over like super tense and we let it out like wow I just relax when I let it out.
• 00:13:27So, so I mean I liken it to that. Right. So you're just saying
• 00:13:33What so. All right, so you you jump over into, like, you know, this conscious living aspect and you know was there fear in doing that or did you do it gradually
• 00:13:45It was a. Was it a full immersion and talk to us a little bit about like kind of transitioning or adding it into your life and what that was like.
• Mona Loring00:13:53So, it
• 00:13:55Very few things in my life were a slow transition. It's just not how I work. I'm can't say that that's necessarily right for everybody, but it's just how I am so
• 00:14:06I had, in a way, felt it coming in, you know, over the past six months before I started conscious living that
• 00:14:13Something was missing. I didn't feel fulfilled, of course, those feelings were there, but I didn't know
• 00:14:17What I needed to do from that because I knew at the end of the day, I still love talent PR, but I don't always love it. What's going on, and it was just that I needed another element right
• 00:14:25And so when I decided to do it. I was just literally it was Labor Day weekend and I was meditating on a beach on the Central Coast and I was just like,
• 00:14:35What do I need to know what do I need to do. Why do I feel like this. Why do I feel lost
• 00:14:40Everything like, you know, they always say, you know, if you if you just look back at what you had always wanted. And you realize that you have it now, you would have been so happy, you know, and
• 00:14:49I realized that I was like, I literally have the clients of my dreams I have money I have employees. I have, you know, I want for nothing. Technically, but that's material. Sure.
• 00:14:59And what does that really right. So I got the download like started another company don't have to let anything go, you just want more start a company and I didn't get the name, but it was along the lines of, I knew it was like conscious or something about life and
• 00:15:15I knew that I needed to start something with mind body spirit work. I knew I wanted to be involved with people who had that same mindset. And I also knew that there was a shift happening.
• 00:15:27That would create a space where those people needed to be promoted, you know, so when I decided to do it. I kid you not, I built that website all on my home one weekend and I hired an employee to come work with me. Within a week and we have clients within I'm gonna say two weeks.
• 00:15:47And like I said it wasn't completely smooth sailing. If you know things happen.
• 00:15:51But I got it up pretty quickly. So it was definitely not really a transition period.
• 00:15:57And I you know I wrote an email to all my existing clients and
• 00:16:01You know, I just, I thank them for being amazing I told them, you might start hearing things about me because I'm dropping other clients. And people might think I've cracked up but
• 00:16:10You know, I'm still me. I'm still who I am. If anything, I'm just, I feel like I understand things more clear. And I'm more clarity and of course the right people I embrace it with open arms and they were gracious and said, you know, thanks for believing in me back and
• 00:16:25It was awesome. So I just felt completely right, as it all developed
• brandon handley00:16:29I love it, I love it. Would you would you be able to say like any specific kind of like awakening moment, would you consider that the awakening moment or would you consider something else.
• 00:16:42Kind of an epiphany moment where you said, Hey, I'm tapped into spirituality like super strong.
• Mona Loring00:16:50You know, I wondered about awakening moments because I see other people's mine was really hardcore and out of nowhere and at a pretty young age.
• 00:17:03So it's hard to compare it to other things later in life that have sort of reawakens me. But if I had to kind of track my costs, it would be. I always laugh because I can't believe this is what did it, but it was literally a leaderboard. I'm like,
• 00:17:22Oh my god, really. But, um, I got the leaderboard, I think it was for my 13th birthday. It was like eighth grade or something and played it with some friends, you know, and you start to think like, oh, just pushing it. Laughing You know which boy like to. And, you know, all those things.
• brandon handley00:17:40Right.
• Mona Loring00:17:41And then it started to I would have the board away and I haven't tucked away and then I started to
• 00:17:47Hear things and feel things and and that was like it hit me like a ton of bricks. It was very strange and
• 00:17:54I realized that I could see energy and I was aware of things. And I could feel I'm very attuned to vibration
• 00:18:02And so I could feel the energy of like a bed or a table and kind of buzzing, and it was very strange and it scared me a lot.
• 00:18:11And you know, when you're a kid, especially when you haven't been educated and there's nothing online. There's no such thing as the Internet really at that age. I don't think it was around even maybe just a while was just starting
• 00:18:25And
• 00:18:27Yeah.
• brandon handley00:18:28Yeah, I didn't know how to look into any of it. You got mail. I didn't want to look into any of it. And so I just
• Mona Loring00:18:36Looking back, it's kind of cool because I had to just experience everything on my own and everything that Spirit told me
• 00:18:43That I had told my friends, I have some friends that knew me then that still know me now. And they're like, How did you know that. How did you know it's trippy stuff.
• 00:18:51Um, but of course I do wish at times like I could go to my mom, who was really spiritual or something. And she'd be like, he's like, my son, he's very spiritual and I'll ask me things. And I'm like, Oh, I got you. This is why or whatever, you know,
• brandon handley00:19:03So, your mom is pretty spiritual into that space as well.
• Mona Loring00:19:06Mom is is very spiritual, but she was not she was a little bit more, a little bit more religious and spiritual. She had a Muslim faith and now she's
• 00:19:16A lot more spiritual and not really religious but no she she would tell me things like, I see God is a light and it's not a person and like she would give me, things like that. Um, but
• 00:19:29No, I had no idea this was going on. I actually came up to my parents late about how my spiritual work you know came around, like I just told them this past year I had friends that you, you know, definitely.
• brandon handley00:19:42There's like
• Mona Loring00:19:43terrified about like
• 00:19:45judging me and wondering like,
• 00:19:47Sure. My daughter is crazy, but the but it was hilarious. When I finally told them, they're like, read me it was like hilarious. It was
• 00:19:55Awesome.
• 00:19:57That's great. Um,
• 00:19:58But the problem I had during my spiritual awakening was that
• 00:20:06I didn't know the difference between dark and light. And I didn't. I also didn't know what I know now, have you need dark for life and it's all about the balance and that's okay.
• 00:20:18And it's not only if you're only going to light and you only deal with the light
• 00:20:22You're leaving some shadows and work that you really need to face behind to life is about balance, you know,
• 00:20:28And so when I was younger. It scared me because all I knew were things that you hear in books or see in movies, right, and you
• 00:20:37I was like, Are these ghosts. Are these, like, is this demons and I was thinking that that. And so I was just bringing over more darkness and it was freaking me out, you know,
• 00:20:46So I put it aside after high school because it was really so consuming. You know, I remember look back and I will remember being in like Spanish class.
• 00:20:56And automatic writing you know just literally just having spirit go through me and just automatic writing. I can't remember. I wish I'd kept those things.
• 00:21:06You know, just writing what Spirit wants me to know and telling me things about my friends and their souls and their soul growth and it was very big on souls and soul growth and
• brandon handley00:21:17Do you feel like you'd be able to tap into that like anytime now.
• 00:21:21Yeah.
• Mona Loring00:21:24I, for some reason, and of course it's come up with a lot of the medium ship work I've done and then the courses. I've taken and I'm you know I have friends. You and I have one in common.
• 00:21:36That can let spirit kind of
• 00:21:39Come really close or within and kind of speaker, but I think because of the past that I had and the lack of control and when I know now that this is all energy and it's all about control and I just want a positive light. And I want it the way I want, I don't want to go there.
• 00:21:55Um, but I know for a fact that I could
• 00:21:59Probably channel things pretty easily. I just, it's not what I'm doing what I do.
• brandon handley00:22:04Sure. No, I get it. I always I like and I like in this kind of what you're talking about there. The energy kind of flowing through you uncontrolled on unbidden, as it were, right, because you don't, you're not you're not kind of expecting it. But then it shows up the way that it did for you.
• 00:22:21I liken it to like anime right like because there's always some like crazy guy that's got like all this energy coming through his eyes like
• 00:22:29Blowing everything up and it's not until he finds this mastery find somebody you can talk to is like hey, you gotta figure
• Mona Loring00:22:35Yeah.
• brandon handley00:22:36You gotta figure this out. And then it becomes like this ultra powerful dude that's got like a few special power moves right like your intuition and like you know like your sham and and like some of this other stuff.
• Mona Loring00:22:48It's I'm laughing as you say that because I was just telling my son, he was begging me to play the new Star Wars game with them.
• 00:22:56And he's like, Mom, I just think you like it. They speak your language and
• 00:22:59I have to meditate and recharge and and I as I started playing it with him and I started to see Star Wars in a different light which I've seen it this way, way sooner but it's it's so amazing to me how Sci Fi is based on so much truth and based on how things really work.
• brandon handley00:23:17You know,
• 00:23:18Behind the Star Wars. Right.
• Mona Loring00:23:20Which
• brandon handley00:00:06Hey,
• Mona Loring00:00:07Hey,
• brandon handley00:00:08How are you
• Mona Loring00:00:09I'm good, how are you
• brandon handley00:00:10I'm doing well well enough for
• 00:00:13mid May covert mid May right
• 00:00:17How you doing today.
• Mona Loring00:00:18Oh babe in May.
• 00:00:21I've been just working slowly but surely today and all going well. So, can't complain.
• brandon handley00:00:28Nice.
• Mona Loring00:00:29I hear so many people that are just out of work. So it's like to even have work to do. I'm like,
• brandon handley00:00:34Right, right. Like, I mean, I can't
• 00:00:38I don't know. I can't imagine like trying to think about being out of work and trying to find work during all this stuff right
• 00:00:47It was it was
• Mona Loring00:00:48Rough yeah
• 00:00:49Yeah, nobody knows what they're gonna do next. And I think that's all part of this, though. We just have to lean into it.
• brandon handley00:00:56And he's got a lot of cool stuffs gonna happen. Right. I mean, a lot of cool stuffs gonna happen just a, you know, kind of, gotta just like you said, lean into it and
• 00:01:05Do it right. Well, what else, what else, what else can you do right just
• 00:01:09And look, there's the there's going to be moments of pain and whatever. But that's all theoretical growth if that's what you're into.
• Mona Loring00:01:20A true
• brandon handley00:01:21Right, right. Well, so look I'm super excited. Do this. Thank you. Thanks for hopping on
• 00:01:27You know, there's so much we can chat about and and we will so
• 00:01:35I'm gonna, you know, kind of do an intro on you and
• 00:01:39I'm going to kind of bounce around your three or three different things, right.
• 00:01:43There enough
• 00:01:44Because I could forget something else in mind.
• Mona Loring00:01:46I'm gonna go with your flow. I'm good.
• brandon handley00:01:50All right, well, you asked for.
• 00:02:00Hey there. I've never done an intro for spiritual dope. But this is it. This is the intro for spiritual dope and today I have with me, Mona Loring who is a she's a PR
• 00:02:13Well, you're a founder right you own the business right you on a couple of PR businesses MLC pr, which is a boutique public relations firm specializing and tailored publicity services and, you know, one of the lines in this as I was checking it out. I loved it was a you're talking about
• 00:02:32The is the line because I loved it.
• 00:02:36I know there it was with ability vigor and charisma. I just loved how you run your business and I thought that was an I love that.
• 00:02:44And you also have conscious living pr, which is due to your own personal passion for the mind, body, and spirit connection you felt like there was a hole in the market that was able to connect these areas with mainstream press to manage the brands and individuals.
• 00:03:00Within them properly. Right. Let's chat a little bit about that one, and then
• 00:03:05As if you didn't have anything else to do with being a mother, first and foremost on top of all this, right, you've got this demonic energy work which you've got over here on conscious healing co where you do life coaching spiritual coaching energy work and all the things you
• 00:03:24Think why don't you know somebody, somebody like where do you find the time
• 00:03:28And I think, you know, at least it is for me when when some of these things, you're so passionate about. That's what lights you up. That's what gives you the energy to do it, you're like, Oh, I get to go do that.
• 00:03:48Thanks for joining me today. This is like a power punch. What
• 00:03:51Is something. What is something like we can celebrate for you. What's a spiritual high. Let's start off on a spiritual high. What's this recently.
• Mona Loring00:04:00Spiritual high that I've had recently. That's an interesting question. A spiritual I
• 00:04:07I mean I feel like so many things are spiritual high I think anything going right as a spiritual. Hi, I'm the first thing that came to my mind. So I'm going to honor that was a client referring me to another client because they love what I've done for them.
• 00:04:24That's a spiritual high because it was for my my healing work. So it's specifically that way to
• 00:04:29I'm nothing feels better than someone thinking that you know you've helped them so much they want to have somebody else.
• 00:04:38Be able to benefit from the work you do. Because, you know, again, we'll get into, and I'm sure but
• 00:04:42The reason I do the healing work is simply because I want to see other people heal because I know how rough life can be, you know, and so when someone saying, hey, can I give your information to a friend because you've helped me out so much like
• brandon handley00:05:00Yeah, no, I love that. Right. I mean, I think that kind of validates the work that you do too. Right. You're like, you're like, Oh my gosh, I really am helping people up to the point where like they've got to tell their friends about me. Right.
• 00:05:10Yeah.
• 00:05:22Is, you know, finding people such as yourself that have out within unlike this calling to do so much more and giving some disregard to the the norm normal constraints right of, hey, this is how you do it. These are aligned you stay within these lines.
• 00:05:38And to be okay.
• 00:05:39You're going to make through you're going to make it through the end of life. You may not like knock it out, but you're going to get there, fairly safe now what you've done is you said you know what, that's not how I feel. This is a feel right.
• 00:05:52I feel like I got to do this thing that's within me, and it is outside alarms.
• 00:05:57Now, number one, let's talk about like you're you're deciding to honor that. And I think, on top of that in the role that you've got right like you you manage high profile people right and and then you got to be like, but my heart says this, let's talk about
• Mona Loring00:06:15Well, I, there were so many different things. You said that was spawning different thoughts in my mind. But I mean, let's start with just the fact that you started saying
• 00:06:25You know, following your heart and and working outside of the norm and not having to necessarily stay within coloring within the lines, you know,
• 00:06:33Um, that's been an interesting experience for me, quite honestly, if I if I really look back my whole career in PR, at least, because
• 00:06:43I started out teaching myself publicity and that's at least back then, it was really unheard of, usually you would go get a job at a big PR firm, you'd intern for a while, and you'd be an assistant for years and then you'd move up.
• 00:06:56And with me, I realized now. It was my calling. Because I just
• 00:07:01Fell into it. You know, I had someone who said, hey, is the work you're doing PR because I really need a publicist, and I said, No, I'm actually a journalist. That's the opposite of PR and she said, that's all right. Don't worry about it. You're smart. You'll figure it out and
• 00:07:23That just like you follow the lines. And it's like, dot, dot, dot, put it all together. And it's been Spirit just guiding me. You know what I mean, like those I'm looking at those like number of
• 00:07:31Things that turn into a picture after a while, but you have no idea where you're going at the beginning. Feels like that.
• 00:07:35Yeah. And so really from the start. I never followed any rules and I really did. Just follow my instinct. I remember really early on.
• 00:07:45Meeting with this one client and
• 00:08:01I go with my gut and he was like that just feels like BS. And I was like, that's the furthest thing from me, you know. I just know what I should be doing for you, you know, um, I think that I've just always followed what feels good.
• 00:08:15And if something felt really wrong. I looked at it, you know, was it my own fear was it wrong because it really isn't right for me, whatever that may be. And
• 00:08:26If I felt like it's just really not right for me and I let it go.
• 00:08:30And that's kind of been the progression with my talent agency of just letting things go that we're feeling forced or not right for me.
• 00:08:37I don't care how big of an A Lister you are. I don't care what you've done. If you're not a good person. If you don't light me up if I don't get excited working on you.
• 00:08:46Know amount of money, no amount of cloud means anything to me, and people are starting to become more and more like that. I definitely have colleagues that think like that, that I was in my world. I felt like I was the only one at the beginning when
• 00:08:59You know, I shifted everything over. And I started conscious living and I caught my talentless down and people thought it was nuts. They were like, okay, the scrolls cracking up she's
• 00:09:11She's starting some hippy dippy PR
• brandon handley00:09:14Firm, you know peace man hope everyone
• Mona Loring00:09:17But it's what I knew would light me up. I did feel like I had a hole in my heart. I felt like, you know, I'm doing all of this work right now and I didn't feel
• 00:09:29It's weird because I didn't feel appreciated. But it wasn't appreciation. I was looking for. It was like that fulfillment. I didn't feel fulfilled right and
• 00:09:38So when I started conscious living it definitely had a hiccups. It wasn't just like smooth sailing took a while to really get that running
• 00:09:47But at the end of the day, it just feels so right that I have both because I feel like I
• 00:10:07Um, but it's I just feel like anytime you feel like you need to stay within the confines of what you're expected to do. I'm trying to go back to your, to your original question, you know.
• 00:10:22you limit yourself and I just feel like this week. I feel like we've had this conversation before were truly humans are pretty unlimited, you know, at the end of the day, like we really don't have any limits, other than what we set ourselves energy is limitless, you know,
• 00:10:38We're all energy then we're technically. All right.
• brandon handley00:10:41Yeah yeah yeah like I mean when you when you kind of when you when you boil it down even even like your whole body is
• 00:10:50Some type of energy, right, like, and so the end of the day, like when you when you like I'll catch myself. Anyways, I say this myself like well I feel a little tired feel around. I'm like, wait a second. I am literally energy and I just like I boost myself right
• Mona Loring00:11:06A really good way to tell myself that makes me feel
• 00:11:11Yeah, truly limitless. But, I mean, I think I, I love, I love how you kind of view.
• 00:11:26Was that an intentional thought then or is that something where you look back now. We're like, you know what, and I also think about this other one from Jim Rome, like you focused on the few that were meaningful right and they
• 00:11:38Are the ones that kind of lowers the most they're the ones that fulfilled you they're the ones that
• 00:11:43Were honor your time and appreciate your time and, you know, kind of like a pretty flower garden or something, man. You know what I mean, just like that.
• Mona Loring00:11:52That's
• brandon handley00:11:52Kind of how it worked out.
• 00:11:53Right, yeah, once you let go over, like all the shade throwers
• Mona Loring00:11:59Another yeah yeah
• 00:12:01And you know, I don't wanna, I don't wanna. I don't want to. What's the I don't WANT to hate on I hate. I don't like that term, but I'm gonna use it again think of something else right now.
• 00:12:09Right. But I don't WANT to hate on anybody that I had let go. In the past, but I would. It would be so sad for them to look back on this and feel rejected by me or
• 00:12:17Feel like I'm more than I think I'm better than them or anything.
• 00:12:20Sometimes it's not even that you're bad people. I saw this post the other day and it was so true.
• 00:12:25Sometimes it's not that you know the relationship you broke up with that person's a bad person, or, you know, if you let go of an employee that they're a bad employee. Sometimes you just
• 00:12:44And if you either. Wait. First of all, something turns out
• 00:12:47Back. It could be a blessing or less than either way. Right.
• 00:12:50And it doesn't mean that these people that I have let go, you know, when I'm hearing this, in my mind, I'm like, no, it's not that they were all. Some of them are
• 00:12:59All bad right it
• brandon handley00:13:00Should
• Mona Loring00:13:01Feel right they were the ones where I was like, you know, I feel like you have somebody else that needs to be in charge of your PR career. It's
• brandon handley00:13:08not you, it's me. Yeah, there's a reason why it's the same people who are totally nervous about confronting people
• Mona Loring00:13:16But that's not me know genuinely though. You know what I mean, like,
• 00:13:20I look back and I there's people that I let go of or you know that I've been let go from that.
• 00:13:28I root for them still to this day I'm fans of theirs. They're wonderful people they're brilliant actors, but
• 00:13:34They're not supposed to be on my path, you know,
• 00:13:36And letting that go
• 00:13:38And having that open up the space that's something I try to teach my clients and my energy clients. I'll specify which
• 00:13:47You know, you have got to let
• 00:13:50Negativity and energy that's draining you that's not positive in your system. Go and allow room for more so, so many people are like, why can I manifest this, why can I have this. I've been working so far for
• 00:14:03X y AMP z and I can't get it and it's like, well, what do you, what do you need to let go of first room here.
• 00:14:10So you know if its energy than things fill up right and I seen on people's energy bodies and a lot of times when people are looking to manifest. I will see places where they need to let go of something and certain chakra, for example.
• 00:14:26And we let that go and put light in. And that light can then be the energy to magnetically pull. What you want to you.
• 00:14:34But if you're if you're holding in that that dark that you think that it would magnetically pull anything you know if anything is going to pull you think opposites attract, it doesn't work that way.
• brandon handley00:14:47Well, you know, a
• 00:14:51The whole letting go thing, right, because people are afraid to let go of of this in so many different like the energy they built up everything.
• 00:15:01everything they've done to get to this point to Scott them so tense. They want to hold on to that, like, Oh, I gotta keep all of this, whereas like Manny. I'm going to just need to let go. Some of this shit and once like it's like breathing out right like when you take a deep breath.
• 00:15:16It's actually when you breathe out that you actually feel better, not everything you take in. It's like
• 00:15:20I'm like over like super tense and we let it out like wow I just relax when I let it out.
• 00:15:26So, so I mean I liken it to that. Right. So you're just saying
• 00:15:32What so. All right, so you you jump over into, like, you know, this conscious living aspect and you know was there fear in doing that or did you do it gradually
• 00:15:44It was a. Was it a full immersion and talk to us a little bit about like kind of transitioning or adding it into your life and what that was like.
• Mona Loring00:15:52So, it
• 00:15:54Very few things in my life were a slow transition. It's just not how I work. I'm can't say that that's necessarily right for everybody, but it's just how I am so
• 00:16:05I had, in a way, felt it coming in, you know, over the past six months before I started conscious living that
• 00:16:12Something was missing. I didn't feel fulfilled, of course, those feelings were there, but I didn't know
• 00:16:16What I needed to do from that because I knew at the end of the day, I still love talent PR, but I don't always love it. What's going on, and it was just that I needed another element right
• 00:16:24And so when I decided to do it. I was just literally it was Labor Day weekend and I was meditating on a beach on the Central Coast and I was just like,
• 00:16:34What do I need to know what do I need to do. Why do I feel like this. Why do I feel lost
• 00:16:39Everything like, you know, they always say, you know, if you if you just look back at what you had always wanted. And you realize that you have it now, you would have been so happy, you know, and
• 00:16:48I realized that I was like, I literally have the clients of my dreams I have money I have employees. I have, you know, I want for nothing. Technically, but that's material. Sure.
• 00:16:58And what does that really right. So I got the download like started another company don't have to let anything go, you just want more start a company and I didn't get the name, but it was along the lines of, I knew it was like conscious or something about life and
• 00:17:14I knew that I needed to start something with mind body spirit work. I knew I wanted to be involved with people who had that same mindset. And I also knew that there was a shift happening.
• 00:17:26That would create a space where those people needed to be promoted, you know, so when I decided to do it. I kid you not, I built that website all on my home one weekend and I hired an employee to come work with me. Within a week and we have clients within I'm gonna say two weeks.
• 00:17:46And like I said it wasn't completely smooth sailing. If you know things happen.
• 00:17:50But I got it up pretty quickly. So it was definitely not really a transition period.
• 00:17:56And I you know I wrote an email to all my existing clients and
• 00:18:00You know, I just, I thank them for being amazing I told them, you might start hearing things about me because I'm dropping other clients. And people might think I've cracked up but
• 00:18:09You know, I'm still me. I'm still who I am. If anything, I'm just, I feel like I understand things more clear. And I'm more clarity and of course the right people I embrace it with open arms and they were gracious and said, you know, thanks for believing in me back and
• 00:18:24It was awesome. So I just felt completely right, as it all developed
• 00:18:41Kind of an epiphany moment where you said, Hey, I'm tapped into spirituality like super strong.
• Mona Loring00:18:49You know, I wondered about awakening moments because I see other people's mine was really hardcore and out of nowhere and at a pretty young age.
• 00:19:02So it's hard to compare it to other things later in life that have sort of reawakens me. But if I had to kind of track my costs, it would be. I always laugh because I can't believe this is what did it, but it was literally a leaderboard. I'm like,
• 00:19:21Oh my god, really. But, um, I got the leaderboard, I think it was for my 13th birthday. It was like eighth grade or something and played it with some friends, you know, and you start to think like, oh, just pushing it. Laughing You know which boy like to. And, you know, all those things.
• brandon handley00:19:39Right.
• Mona Loring00:19:40And then it started to I would have the board away and I haven't tucked away and then I started to
• 00:19:46Hear things and feel things and and that was like it hit me like a ton of bricks. It was very strange and
• 00:19:53I realized that I could see energy and I was aware of things. And I could feel I'm very attuned to vibration
• 00:20:01And so I could feel the energy of like a bed or a table and kind of buzzing, and it was very strange and it scared me a lot.
• 00:20:10And you know, when you're a kid, especially when you haven't been educated and there's nothing online. There's no such thing as the Internet really at that age. I don't think it was around even maybe just a while was just starting
• 00:20:24And
• 00:20:26Yeah.
• brandon handley00:20:27Yeah, I didn't know how to look into any of it. You got mail. I didn't want to look into any of it. And so I just
• Mona Loring00:20:35Looking back, it's kind of cool because I had to just experience everything on my own and everything that Spirit told me
• 00:20:42That I had told my friends, I have some friends that knew me then that still know me now. And they're like, How did you know that. How did you know it's trippy stuff.
• 00:20:50Um, but of course I do wish at times like I could go to my mom, who was really spiritual or something. And she'd be like, he's like, my son, he's very spiritual and I'll ask me things. And I'm like, Oh, I got you. This is why or whatever, you know,
• brandon handley00:21:02So, your mom is pretty spiritual into that space as well.
• Mona Loring00:21:05Mom is is very spiritual, but she was not she was a little bit more, a little bit more religious and spiritual. She had a Muslim faith and now she's
• 00:21:15A lot more spiritual and not really religious but no she she would tell me things like, I see God is a light and it's not a person and like she would give me, things like that. Um, but
• 00:21:28No, I had no idea this was going on. I actually came up to my parents late about how my spiritual work you know came around, like I just told them this past year I had friends that you, you know, definitely.
• brandon handley00:21:41There's like
• Mona Loring00:21:42terrified about like
• 00:21:44judging me and wondering like,
• 00:21:46Sure. My daughter is crazy, but the but it was hilarious. When I finally told them, they're like, read me it was like hilarious. It was
• 00:21:54Awesome.
• 00:21:56That's great. Um,
• 00:21:57But the problem I had during my spiritual awakening was that
• 00:22:05I didn't know the difference between dark and light. And I didn't. I also didn't know what I know now, have you need dark for life and it's all about the balance and that's okay.
• 00:22:17And it's not only if you're only going to light and you only deal with the light
• 00:22:27And so when I was younger. It scared me because all I knew were things that you hear in books or see in movies, right, and you
• 00:22:45So I put it aside after high school because it was really so consuming. You know, I remember look back and I will remember being in like Spanish class.
• 00:22:55And automatic writing you know just literally just having spirit go through me and just automatic writing. I can't remember. I wish I'd kept those things.
• 00:23:05You know, just writing what Spirit wants me to know and telling me things about my friends and their souls and their soul growth and it was very big on souls and soul growth and
• brandon handley00:23:16Do you feel like you'd be able to tap into that like anytime now.
• Mona Loring00:23:23I, for some reason, and of course it's come up with a lot of the medium ship work I've done and then the courses. I've taken and I'm you know I have friends. You and I have one in common.
• 00:23:35That can let spirit kind of
• 00:23:38Come really close or within and kind of speaker, but I think because of the past that I had and the lack of control and when I know now that this is all energy and it's all about control and I just want a positive light. And I want it the way I want, I don't want to go there.
• 00:23:54Um, but I know for a fact that I could
• 00:23:58Probably channel things pretty easily. I just, it's not what I'm doing what I do.
• brandon handley00:24:03Sure. No, I get it. I always I like and I like in this kind of what you're talking about there. The energy kind of flowing through you uncontrolled on unbidden, as it were, right, because you don't, you're not you're not kind of expecting it. But then it shows up the way that it did for you.
• 00:24:20I liken it to like anime right like because there's always some like crazy guy that's got like all this energy coming through his eyes like
• 00:24:28Blowing everything up and it's not until he finds this mastery find somebody you can talk to is like hey, you gotta figure
• Mona Loring00:24:34Yeah.
• brandon handley00:24:35You gotta figure this out. And then it becomes like this ultra powerful dude that's got like a few special power moves right like your intuition and like you know like your sham and and like some of this other stuff.
• Mona Loring00:24:47It's I'm laughing as you say that because I was just telling my son, he was begging me to play the new Star Wars game with them.
• 00:24:55And he's like, Mom, I just think you like it. They speak your language and
• 00:24:58I have to meditate and recharge and and I as I started playing it with him and I started to see Star Wars in a different light which I've seen it this way, way sooner but it's it's so amazing to me how Sci Fi is based on so much truth and based on how things really work.
• brandon handley00:25:16You know,
• 00:25:17Behind the Star Wars. Right.
• Mona Loring00:25:19Which
• brandon handley00:25:19Were you Joseph Campbell, right, like the whole his
• Mona Loring00:25:23So just, okay, yes, yes, yes, yes.
• 00:25:25But I look
• 00:25:26What was he did he, what do you mean, kind of, in what way.
• brandon handley00:25:29Well, so
• 00:25:31There is no George Lucas based pretty much the whole premise.
• Mona Loring00:25:34I was wondering if somehow either involvement. Okay.
• brandon handley00:25:37Yeah, so I know that for a very long time, actually the hero's journey like
• Mona Loring00:25:42I know
• 00:25:43Now the the connection to Star Wars and not until I don't even know last year. Yeah.
• brandon handley00:25:49Well, so, so I you know probably vaguely heard about it not heard about like the hero's journey, a couple of times. And it wasn't until I watched that, you know, PBS special that they have on Netflix with with him and like
• 00:26:02He's so awesome. I'm like, like, you know, there's so many great people that hit dead. I'm like, so pissed. Like, you know,
• 00:26:09Going back like Wayne Dyer Alan Watts and and like you know just so can we like what
• 00:26:15You guys could you couldn't wait like 10 more minutes.
• 00:26:18Right. You know what I mean. Um, but yeah. So yeah, it's, it's
• 00:26:21When you can see it through the lens that you're talking about, you're seeing it to like this other lens and
• 00:26:27It's very, it's very much that cliche. Well, when you know when the student is ready, the master will appear.
• 00:26:33Like you're like, yo,
• 00:26:35Yo, you were so on top of things.
• 00:26:40That's great. Um, yeah. So I wanted to want to ask you just kind of like, so I got this this weird book.
• 00:26:47It's called weird because I'd never heard of it before and then I picked it up and it's like, is this really based off of like orthodox like Christianity and this guy also Carl, whereas the Carl call free graph Durkheim, he spent some time spent about 10 years with
• 00:27:03Zen Buddhist in Japan, like like 30s and 40s, RIGHT. SO HE WAS KIND OF
• 00:27:08Hanging he was probably hanging out with watts. I'm guessing at some point. Right. But there's a couple of lines in here that, like, you know, really, really struck me and I'm just gonna, I'm just curious if they kind of resonate with you. Right.
• 00:27:19We talked about the limitations. Right. The once you realize there's no limitations or you're limitless as a human being. Right. I mean, so before him now are open stages of maturity on a path with no boundaries. Right. Like, I mean,
• 00:27:32How does somebody know this stuff right like
• 00:27:36Before him now are now open stages of maturity on a path with no boundaries, right, like, and that talks limitless.
• 00:27:44Right. Um, let's find the other one because. So, this you know you talk about, like, you know, kind of getting wrapped up and it was all too much like at a certain point and this is the, the whole thing my awakening.
• 00:27:58Aspect didn't happen prior to like about three or four years ago right and
• 00:28:03You know, it was like a punch in the gut. And I was like, What is going on now. I had the benefit of having a hippie mom, I was born in San Francisco. Like I had like all the like I was like oh shit this is everything that I'd heard about then laugh that
• 00:28:18Right.
• 00:28:20But, you know, so, but this is this is the line right life no longer turns around, man. But around divine being and its manifestation. Right. Like, I mean, so that's
• 00:28:29Right, like where you realize there's there's a something's missing. It's like the divine aspect and like once you know that kind of did you get right i mean you're wrapped up around it. Now, right, like that's what gives you life my inner out. What do you think
• Mona Loring00:28:45In what way, what do I think about which far
• brandon handley00:28:47I mean, you know, so I mean you're no longer kind of wrapped around like the the
• Mona Loring00:28:51Attachments and man.
• brandon handley00:28:53Just demand stuff right like it's like it's like really what's driving life is like the divine light in you or you know something along those lines, right, like that's the greater driving force.
• Mona Loring00:29:05I mean my again my head goes in so many directions with that, um,
• 00:29:11YOU KNOW, IT'S FOR ME. IT THE POWERFUL PART OF THAT was the manifestation hub and you know I'm going so many places because of what I just recently read to
• brandon handley00:29:23What do you recently read
• Mona Loring00:29:24Well, I was reading about a little bit more about the fifth dimension.
• 00:29:29And I was reading about parallel lives.
• 00:29:31Hmm. And so I'm like, I'm like, you're like oh no you're taking me somewhere else, right now, but
• 00:29:35To do it.
• 00:29:36Um,
• Mona Loring00:29:38It just made me think of how you know we we think for so much of our lives, because we're conditioned. We think that what we are is just what our body is right, and the man, the
• 00:29:49See, and what we actually see
• 00:29:51Which is so funny to me because when you stop and think about it so much of what we don't see we take as reality, too. But then when spirit comes into it for like
• 00:30:01You know,
• 00:30:03And I just recently did read about how people don't question dreams.
• 00:30:08And then dreams are real and you have a dream, but yet, how does that, how do you know it's real, it's the same thing as someone just telling you that they have
• 00:30:16But yeah everybody accepts that right. Um, so this was just leading me down the rabbit hole of thought of, you know, Parallel Lives and just how
• 00:30:29It's not the body, it's, it's this the soul, and how many lives each soul has and spawns and there's so many different than
• 00:30:37The old different markets, but, um, you know, also, I'm thinking about how
• 00:30:45Oh, man. It's so funny when you get me started. It's hilarious. I'm like, I need to. I need to really think about where I want to go and what I want to tell you because I wanted to so many different things, but you know just what you think becomes right
• 00:30:58And so I think this is another part and what that quote was saying is, you know,
• 00:31:04You manifest what your life is. I mean, I tell my clients all the time what you think you become and earlier you had kind of said something along the lines of
• 00:31:14Something about scarcity with my business. And, you know, was I afraid and, you know, for some reason, one of the most I'm so grateful for this gift and personality trait, but I've never been afraid of luck.
• 00:31:26I've never been afraid of scarcity. I've always just been like, well, if I think I can do it. I can do it.
• 00:31:32That's nice. And it is nice and I'm very grateful for that. Because I know that it's difficult. If you can't, and there's been times where that stumped me more recently than not, which has been really interesting, but I'm
• brandon handley00:31:44Gonna be a curious.
• 00:31:45Point to when when you when you're stumped. You like well, like you said that that doesn't make any sense. This isn't, this isn't so there's something in that right like what what is there, like, you know,
• Mona Loring00:31:57locking it
• brandon handley00:31:57Yeah.
• Mona Loring00:31:59You know, so
• brandon handley00:31:59I mean, so, as you know, I think that's an interesting question two is like as a as a sham. And as a light worker somebody that's intuitive medium, who do you go to when you need up
• Mona Loring00:32:13Man, I have some amazing people that I guess you know
• 00:32:15And I want to, I want to correct one thing I don't call myself a Sean I'm I'm semantically trained. I feel like the identity of a shaman is something different. And you know, it's, I believe in certain ways, it's indigenous and I
• 00:32:33Don't want to take that on for myself.
• 00:32:36Here also, because
• 00:32:37With the training that I've had. I have kind of turned it into my own thing.
• 00:32:42And through these beautiful you know I'm Nancy right now. Who do I go to
• 00:32:46Their my teachers and who I go to they've taught me so many different pieces of what spirit is because there's no one right way to work with spirit, there's no one right way to work with energy, you know,
• 00:32:58It's literally like going into get a massage and you're like, You want sweetest we're trying to monetize this is all
• 00:33:03Right. But there's different ways that people do it. And it's the same thing with spirit. I'm, I'm going to give a major shout out to one of my mentors and friends, Andre
• 00:33:12Um, you can find them that fine Andre on Instagram and He's incredible and he's all about energy frequency healing and it's been interesting with him, be one of my teachers because he's, he's like a Mr. Miyagi in the sense of how he did not answer.
• 00:33:32I want to see me. I want to make sure and accurate and saying any any of my questions. Never. I would ask the question, what do you think
• 00:33:41Oh, gosh. To me in six months. It was so frustrating.
• 00:33:45Um, and I get it now. And I get his. It's his way of working with people. And I just, I feel I always think, like, Man, if I did that to people they like, get out of here. I'm never going to talk to you again. But he's
• 00:33:55He's so good at it and you know he's so incredible with what he does with energy, um, he can do some incredible healing for people with just a very light touch. I mean, you can't walk straight just barely touching and there are, it's incredible look him up.
• 00:34:11You know, I listened to it. I thought I checked out your podcast with them you know that you to talk
• brandon handley00:34:16Is really nice and you know it was nice because you can tell you guys had, you know, a nice bond, a nice connection.
• Mona Loring00:34:22Right, yeah. He's, he's like a big brother is really amazing person. And he has really given me the the confidence to go into healing. When I was like, you know, limiting myself a publicist supposed to do, why would I do healing to and people will take me seriously as a publicist it
• 00:34:42Took me
• brandon handley00:34:43Like how does it
• 00:34:44wasn't him, it was, it was a hit me so you know cuz. Look, I remember. Um, when I when I was first my first kind of foray into the space, right.
• 00:34:52Very similar feelings. Right.
• 00:34:54Moms with coaching father's right and I was like, who why what gives me the audacity right
• 00:35:00Why to say like, you know, I should be a coach day right
• 00:35:03Right, good coach, whatever.
• 00:35:06As you can tell, awesome at it, um,
• 00:35:11But it was like and and the coach that has like will you do, you know, just, you've got to give yourself the permission to be great. You know who else is going to do it for you. If you're not
• 00:35:20Yeah, you're if you're expecting somebody else to give you permission to be great. Like, you're always going to be waiting
• 00:35:26Yeah.
• Mona Loring00:35:29That's exactly it. And I don't want to interrupt you. What, what was
• brandon handley00:35:32So, I mean, how, how did you blow past it. Right.
• Mona Loring00:35:36Yeah and you know
• 00:35:40I initially started doing this. I mean, first of all, I've been doing it again since I was 13 on and off with friends.
• 00:35:47Um, you know, there were times where I i've always been studying. I've always been exploring it, but when I took the dive into actually doing it as a profession I was only last year.
• 00:35:58And it was after working with friends, you know, on the DL working with family and just being like okay, can you just like
• 00:36:06One more time, just make sure you tell me I'm not bullshit. You know, am I, can I really do this and I just really like predict this because I don't want to tell somebody on the psychic if I'm just
• 00:36:14You know, like you, if the self doubt is so real. And for me, there was so much self doubt at the beginning because I take it so seriously, I take what people
• 00:36:24Believe in the spirit world so seriously and I never ever want to mix myself up or seem like I'm a charlatan and
• 00:36:32When anybody who's like that because people are always after money for the quick buck saying something about energy. Your Spirit and God I run into them all the time. And that was where I just needed to make sure that I was legit.
• 00:36:44And I realized the best way to be legit is to be pure of heart.
• 00:36:48You know, like if you just genuinely care for that person's well be right.
• 00:36:53Here it will not let you steer you the wrong way. I mean, there's been days where I spirit was like let me take the wheel and literally like, I'm just holding that space. And I'm like, watching one of my spirit guides work on this person. It's incredible.
• 00:37:07Yeah.
• brandon handley00:37:08You know, reminds me of, well, first of all, know you and I talked before before today a little bit. And we talked about stepping into the space and how it just kind of opens up for you once you
• 00:37:20open yourself up to it, right, kind of thing. I know that sounds like you know some other mythical line.
• 00:37:27But
• brandon handley00:37:28I was reading the you know the Michael singer.
• 00:37:32Surrender experiment right where he talks about, you know,
• 00:37:37Maybe he recognized when he let go, that
• 00:37:41Like Mother Nature whatever was going to give them so much more than he'd ever dreamed possible by by kind of settings, his own standards, right. Have you found that kind of yourself to be something true
• Mona Loring00:37:54Absolutely. And I think the most common theme for me is just trust the universe and spirit and
• 00:38:02That's within my own life and what I'm doing. And let me tell you all day long. We can have a whole podcast episode about how I've been doing it with Ovid, right. Um, but yeah i just i think that
• 00:38:15You really do need to. I think that's why people say surrender to spirit surrender to God or whatever. And it sounds so intense, and it sounds so scary. And it's like, Okay, are you joining a call. Like, what does this mean right
• 00:38:26Right, it's different. It's not surrendering and letting something lead you. You still have free will. You can think for yourself doesn't feel right. Don't do it, but it's just that trust. I think it just means trust, you know, and
• 00:38:40I think that just for me. I have to just sometimes I'm
• 00:38:47Being a publicist and being a healer is really weird because you have to completely
• 00:38:52Different personalities. You know, when I'm in PR and I mean obviously I'm not one of those really gentle ethical fairy areas healers and you can tell like I'm a little bit more on the
• 00:39:02Side. So at least the public is still there. And that way, but I mean my voice changes when I'm going to healing.
• 00:39:08session with people. I'm softer I'm slower.
• 00:39:12And as a publicist you're intense and it's cocoa and how you get it done and you know
• 00:39:16And so when I switched to being a healer, I have to just surrender to spirit. Just what do you need me to do. What are you showing me
• 00:39:24You know, where do I see this energy that's hurting someone were to what, like, what is it, just show me.
• 00:39:29I'm not doing any of them myself. First of all, so if you want to heal yourself or be a healer or get into anything that's spiritual. You have to trust spirit because
• 00:39:39If you're going to be one of those people, which I have them in my family and they've come a long way because of, you know, seeing me. And luckily, trusting to work with spirit more but you know if you're if you're gonna sit here with your arms crossed, like, oh, show me.
• 00:39:53Show me. Yeah, you're not going to see anything.
• 00:39:55We're really are. And then when you let go and you trust, and this is why it's great for some people. I'm not advocating for everyone but plant medicine is really great for some people, because
• 00:40:05It takes away all those inhibitions and you're not sitting there in your thought brain and you're you're stuck in your ego mind and, you know, thinking, well, logically, this and that, you know, you're just letting go and you're feeling and you're seeing
• 00:40:17And if you do that, you do not need plant medicine for any of that. But if you do that spirit will show you, you know, but you have to first take the first step forward and trust.
• brandon handley00:40:28You gotta be, you know, what's the awful of all the lines, right, you know, open, open, open everything and attached to nothing. Right.
• Mona Loring00:40:36Yes.
• 00:40:37All right. Ah.
• 00:40:39And
• brandon handley00:40:40You know,
• 00:40:41We also talked a little bit about like now. So it opens up for you. Once you accept it. But, you know, then you got the people that are trying to manifest
• 00:40:49With with such great intensity like you were talking about earlier to when somebody like
• 00:40:54I just keep trying and some people that can't let go, but it's also when they're trying so hard to force it. They're trying to force it themselves. They're trying to use their own personal energy right and versus, you know,
• 00:41:06Alan Watts on you know Trust the universe is another right you know just trust the universe is another and and or, you know, the whole let go and let God
• Mona Loring00:41:17Yeah.
• brandon handley00:41:18Yeah, you know, you know, you're like, you're like, Did that really just come out of your mouth and yeah just came out of my mouth like, let go, let God, why would you say it because it works.
• 00:41:27Yeah, um, and with lol thing, right.
• 00:41:31A LAW of ATTRACTION bit right
• 00:41:35Look for evidence of it like you were talking about before, right, you got somebody like
• Mona Loring00:41:40Not yeah
• brandon handley00:41:41Not on my watch.
• 00:41:42Right, so you know like you talk a little bit about looking for evidence of it, right, like if you're if you're trying to be in that space. Tell us a little bit about that. What's that look like
• Mona Loring00:41:54So this is so funny. Everything asked me, am I, man. I need a whole podcast episode or just this. But all right, bite size pieces so I love
• 00:42:05Law of Attraction and manifestation. And I think that's truly why a anything exists and I'm for better for worse, why good exists and why that exists, you know, and I think that
• 00:42:22What people don't realize is, they only do a few steps of like the whole list of what you need to do to manifest
• 00:42:29Um, and it's it's hard. I mean, I'm sitting here preaching to the choir and I'll tell clients, what they need to do.
• 00:42:35But there's times where I'm lying and I'm lost in my own self limiting beliefs. Again, or my energy in a certain way and I'm locking myself from manifesting too.
• 00:42:44Because we're human, and we get in our own way. That is the number one thing humans do best, get in their own way, but
• 00:42:50I think that really what's so important is just being in that vibration
• 00:42:55And you know, I even with my psychic work. You know, it's all about kind of the tuning to that radio station is how I explain it, you know, and just getting into this vibration
• 00:43:04And Law of Attraction is one of the easier vibrations to be in. Because at the end of the day, if you are in gratitude and if you are in love.
• 00:43:13There's no wrong way. If you are as as often as you can. And it's kind of the tipping scale.
• 00:43:19Where it's like if you're more love than anything else, you're still going to tip it over and it's going to help you out and you're going to be on that vibration. So you don't even have to be perfect. That's why it's so easy. You know, I'm
• brandon handley00:43:30Lucky. Yes.
• Mona Loring00:43:32It's for me. One thing I do to just stay in it as often as I can.
• 00:43:37Obviously, it helps. Now that I'm doing so much more healing work because that's keeping my vibration up and just helping people in the love I feel for people and
• 00:43:45You know, meditation and all of that. But that aside. Let's say I wasn't doing that for me before I really got into a day to day
• 00:43:52I would go on Instagram and just follow really high vibe people and highlight things and follow you know places. I want to go on vacation that I love and follow you know just nature pictures and that all increases your vibration listening to music that you love.
• 00:44:11You know outside. It sounds like you're focusing on things that you wanted in your life.
• 00:44:17Things that you, this is the thing. So with I think the first step is just things that you like that make you feel good.
• 00:44:24That's the very first step of just
• 00:44:26Getting to a better place because some people, they're going to you know there's practice alleyway. And they're in a dark place. And they're like, well, how do I attract this when I'm just so far from the bowl.
• 00:44:37So that's kind of what I'm getting into it sort of like that first step of what you need to do to just almost effortlessly raise your vibration
• 00:44:45Then of course there's the other list of things that you need to do, which is like very specifically, think about what you want, but it's tricky because while you can't be too specific, because if you're too specific. You're limiting what
• brandon handley00:44:57Right. Well, I mean that's that's a kind of speaking in generalities. Right. This also goes back to
• 00:45:03You know too much focus on your own intention and trying to do it yourself. Because if you're because in that aspect. Then you're limited to what you think is possible versus what is truly possible
• Mona Loring00:45:15Yeah, well,
• 00:45:17Exactly.
• brandon handley00:45:19So much fun.
• 00:45:21I'm so you know spiritual dope spiritual dope. I like the idea of, you know, just kind of
• 00:45:31When you feel
• 00:45:33Connected to like demanding and getting that high. Right. That's, that's, again, the premise of kind of spiritual dope. Right.
• 00:45:41Let's talk about another spiritual dope experience, like, you know, what do you do to get your daily does your daily hit your gratitude practice your meditation.
• 00:45:52Senior kid thrive right you have, how many children, one or two.
• 00:45:55You too. How old are the
• Mona Loring00:45:5815 and 11 boy and a girl.
• brandon handley00:46:00Oh man 1511 Nice, nice. And so seeing them thrive and like getting to be their mom, you know, I think that that's also
• 00:46:09That's another one of those lines to, like, you know, was it. Children are a blessing you
• 00:46:15Know you're like wow what a blessing. They are right. You know, I don't know. Give me something that when I haven't hit on that you would consider like a spiritual high spiritual head spiritual. Nope. Hit me with it.
• Mona Loring00:46:30I'm
• 00:46:33Hmm. I mean, there's so many things. It's like
• 00:46:38Such an interesting question is easy. It's so easy, but then it's complicated.
• 00:46:43Like anything, anything that makes you really happy a spiritual dough like
• 00:46:49You know what I mean.
• 00:46:51Um, so then I'm like, Okay, well, let me give you something like a little bit more serious or intent, like, you know, we're talking about like gratitude and meditation and
• 00:47:01You know,
• 00:47:02Like I'm looking outside right now as we talk. I tend to look outside this window a lot when I do my sessions and, you know, this is your here and I look outside
• 00:47:10It kind of gives me that zero and kind of not really being in a space and letting myself flow and I'm looking outside. I'm seeing sunlight. Sunlight spiritual though.
• 00:47:18Yeah, well you that right now.
• 00:47:20Or sure
• brandon handley00:47:22There's a line that's like a, you know, the talks about God, like you know the difference between like kind of being human with divinity is
• 00:47:31In relation to God is like, you know, being warmed by the sun but not being the sun, right. Like, I mean, to me, that's pretty powerful. So it says right so the Son.
• 00:47:42Who is like you know some of your all time favorites. If you're on a, you know, was I'm a big fan of high fidelity of the movie. I'm not sure if you're a john Cusack fan and
• 00:47:53I love him so you know island all time, you know, top five. You're gonna be stuck listening to them talking to them spiritual people who are they who are they
• Mona Loring00:48:05Oh man, I thought I was questioning off and I was like,
• 00:48:11Okay.
• 00:48:13I'm going to go up because he he
• 00:48:17He really broke me into truly spiritual literature and he was really kind of my first Wayne Dyer. I'm definitely him.
• 00:48:26And he and anyone who hasn't experienced them. I would say listen to him because his voice is so soothing that that's just half of it right there. I changed my life so much more to actually start to listen to what he has to say.
• 00:48:41Over just read what he has to say. But his power of intention was the first book I read and of his books and I thought it was brilliant. Um, who else. Okay, hold on my face. Oh, I'm literally looking at all my books around here and cheating so hard. I'm
• brandon handley00:49:02Going to you.
• Mona Loring00:49:04I, I really like Joe dispenser right now.
• 00:49:07And kind of is. So it's like, oh, all time is rough, but like
• 00:49:10I'm pretty hot on him right now, just because, um,
• 00:49:14He, he's a tough one for some people to grasp, because in certain ways, he doesn't answer all your questions, like I was introducing my husband and my husband was like
• 00:49:25But he doesn't explain a lot and he doesn't explain how like it's a little bit. And if you really want to like need all that detail there is a little bit of vagueness to what you say. Um, you have to. That's what spirit experience a little bit
• 00:49:39And, you know, it is like we don't know everything, you know,
• brandon handley00:49:43What makes it a challenge is like how you're going to describe to somebody that's never had the experience what being filled by spirits like
• 00:49:51Yeah, right, or or
• 00:49:54Existing or feeling on that level, and that's where the differentials come from, from so many different spaces because you can't put that shit into words.
• Mona Loring00:50:05You can, and it's hard and you know there's there's a meditation that he he has that
• 00:50:12I've tried to do. And I've succeeded once really well and it was mind blowing. Um, but I find what he has to say really interesting and I'm a huge believer and he breaks down into people like Gregg Gregg Braden, and
• 00:50:26There is there so interesting.
• brandon handley00:50:28So Greg's, the one that finally so I know I've got, like, if you remember the movie high fidelity for he's got his albums line to like chronological order, right.
• Mona Loring00:50:39Remember them. It's been a minute.
• 00:50:41Hey man, you know,
• brandon handley00:50:42If you get super down on anything should go watch it because it's always
• 00:50:45Entertaining
• brandon handley00:50:48But he's got the he's got his albums, like in chronological order right here. I can tell you how I got to, you know, this album to that.
• Mona Loring00:50:56Number that
• brandon handley00:50:57Right, so that's like that's like me. I'm like, why can tell you how I got to Alan Watts and I got to
• 00:51:03And then I got over here into Gregg Braden. And so, Alan Watts is always talking about in Buddhism, they talk about the heart, mind connection right and man I went off on a search. I was like, I gotta find out more about this heart, mind can hardly
• 00:51:18Google um
• 00:51:21And and Gregg Braden did it in one of his sessions on the last gospels of Thomas
• 00:51:28And you know, you know, you've just got to connect the two and a resonant manner and like when you've connected the two you'll know it and that's like that heart, mind connection. And that's when people like that's when
• 00:51:41You're in full gratitude and you express a wish. I mean, that's when you're going to be like most resonant because now you've got your mind and your heart like into and and that's part of the whole heart math bit right like is
• 00:51:51That
• brandon handley00:51:53Right. I mean, what else you don't need, like, I love, I love the amplification process of movies media.
• 00:52:00Podcast. And to me, it's just like one big soapbox for me. I'm like, Well, you know, this is how I'm going to amplify my message right but you can just, you don't need all this, you can just do it with that heart, mind connection and and so Gregg Braden
• 00:52:16So my guy.
• 00:52:17It's like when you when you have those when you trip over those things, I think, you know, so you're talking about. I'm looking for
• Mona Loring00:52:24Cheating again with the bookcase.
• brandon handley00:52:26You're good. So the meditation that just you did. I mean, I've been. I've been working on that one. Um, that sounds like. So is it the one that's the beginning of becoming supernatural because I've got the audio, I need the book right
• Mona Loring00:52:39I don't know if it's at the beginning of becoming supernatural. I haven't, I haven't found it in a minute. Um, but
• 00:52:45I believe he only if I'm not mistaken, I believe he only has one true like it's always the same. He has one main meditation. That's his theory and it goes. Um, I remember how it goes like, you know, imagine the space between your temples in space.
• brandon handley00:53:01And like
• Mona Loring00:53:02The way he says that some people are like, wait, what, like, what are you saying to me, you
• 00:53:05Know, but if you just give yourself permission to let go and whatever that's defined us for you will work.
• 00:53:11You know, it's a pretty interesting meditation. It's all about shooting your energy from from like your tailbone up your body. It's really interesting.
• brandon handley00:53:18Well, I mean, so, so
• 00:53:20Have you so he talks about like how to do that right by like I'm making this making the, you know, stomach muscles strong and like all that stuff.
• 00:53:28Sounds like to me like Kundalini like a Kundalini practice, but also again due to my friend over here, Carl free this guy from Germany who spent the time over in Japan.
• 00:53:43It's the same thing. It says, then is it flipped or backwards on the side. I don't know.
• Mona Loring00:53:47That's perfect.
• brandon handley00:53:49Right. So it's the same exercise.
• 00:53:52Which is to me. I love that because it's, you know, you're like, wow, these things. It's the same. It's the same stomach exercise like we do the meditation and get the energy know pumped up to the back of your head and giving yourself the TMT shot.
• Mona Loring00:54:06Yeah, right. Yeah.
• brandon handley00:54:07So I'm working on that one.
• Mona Loring00:54:11Not natural the empty.
• brandon handley00:54:12Right, right, guys.
• 00:54:17That would be one I would chase for a while. Sure.
• 00:54:19Yes, like, no, just just
• 00:54:23Yes, but I mean you know but i wanted i want to do it will like where I don't get in trouble for having a handful of it, um,
• 00:54:32But I love the fact that our bodies are. I mean, that's the whole you know the whole alchemy.
• Mona Loring00:54:36Aspect right i mean our
• brandon handley00:54:38Bodies, you know, generate all the things that we really need if if we give into it. Or if we know how to make it happen, such as
• 00:54:50The
• brandon handley00:54:51Meditation that you're talking about, like, one more of your, of your top fives.
• Mona Loring00:55:00Hmm. These are some books on us. It's top five. Let's see who else
• 00:55:06I love so many people. I'm excited that I said Wayne Dyer that goes to show he really just opened me up to the world. I love that. Um,
• 00:55:18Who else would I say
• 00:55:23I love that you're just watching me on this podcast looking around my office. I'm
• 00:55:31Oh, you know what
• 00:55:33I haven't finished yet.
• 00:55:35I didn't finish I have so many books. I wish I could just take my computer around a show you it's everywhere.
• 00:55:40Um, I haven't finished this book, which is crazy that I'm going to recommend it but it's because I'm a Gemini and I started a book and then I
• 00:55:47Read half of it and I jumped to the next thing. And I'll go back to it and I have, I probably am reading about five books at one given time. I'm Autobiography of a Yogi.
• 00:55:58Hmm.
• Mona Loring00:56:00I suggest anyone who wants to know a little bit of something about something.
• 00:56:05So I bought that at his actual
• 00:56:09Spiritual center down in Encinitas San Diego and it's an awesome place, but anyone who's in social definitely does it if they can, at some point, um, and it's such an interesting book because I want to grab it. I'm
• 00:56:29Parma Hansa your yoga Nanda, I was like,
• brandon handley00:56:33Nada. That's why.
• Mona Loring00:56:36This guy, um, it's just so interesting because I've even gone on YouTube before and done some of the meditation.
• 00:56:46They have available and they're pretty great.
• 00:56:49And it's all just, you know, the meditation. They did. They were all just based on love. Um, but it's it's really this is named one of the hundred Best virtual books of the 20th century. So right here.
• 00:57:03The self realization of of just anything that you're doing in meditation and in spirit.
• 00:57:10I think I would even though I haven't finished it. So I feel like I'm a little bit of a cheat saying this, but from what I have right of it. And again, you know, diving into what
• 00:57:19It's about and you know this is a little bit, you know, tells you about his life and stuff too. But, you know, the theory behind self realization is beautiful to me. And I think that
• 00:57:32The number one thing that I've learned that I believe my mentors were always trying to reach me and I want everybody else to really believe is that you really have all the answers you need it.
• 00:57:44You really don't need to look without to to know anything you really i mean it's it's part of the whole Akashic records. You know, it's like the informations already in a certain field.
• 00:57:58Just dive into it and you dial into the frequency and you can get any information you know you want to know because
• 00:58:05It's there for you. And of course that's easier said than done. And I know that if you're not in a certain mindset or in a certain space, you can certainly do that. But, um,
• 00:58:14That's why I feel like meditation so important you know because you you will have so much information. I mean, how was I a 13 year old girl telling people about household households work. And then, you know, five years ago, I was reading this book.
• 00:58:32I can't remember the book, Robert Schwartz, he wrote it. Not that I totally believe everything that he said, not that I think he's a liar, either. I just don't know. But the things that were in this book where things I was telling
• 00:58:42Our team. It was very bizarre and um you know how if you if it's not about dialing within yourself and tapping into the energy field around you, how would how would I have even known to tell these people, these things that I have never stopped to think about
• brandon handley00:58:56Love it. I love, I love, I love that because you know
• 00:59:01The way I think about it is kind of like even, even in coaching, any, any kind of like creative nature forces.
• 00:59:09Are through you. For the benefit almost more for somebody else. Right. So it's like you don't know you just got to open yourself up to it and you know you're there for the benefit of somebody else right
• 00:59:21Yeah, it's kind of one of the ways I see it. So,
• 00:59:25Just being a vehicle of that energy right being a vehicle that you know information is energy right
• 00:59:32So I love that. What would you say ended up here real quick for us but um you know when you're
• 00:59:39Kind of first coming into it. Right. You did it at like 13 there was no Google, there's no Facebook group there was like, you know,
• 00:59:49Finding these books right and kind of getting that validation there. Or let's say somebody
• 00:59:56Is coming into it right now. Right.
• 00:59:58What would you send them like, you know, somebody says, like, Oh my God, I feel like elements.
• 01:00:02Touching god like and I must be crazy. What would you tell them
• Mona Loring01:00:08That's such a tough one because I think there's no right answer for everybody.
• 01:00:13And I know that might seem like a cop out but it's true. Um, I would ask someone, you know, what do you, what do you feel like you want to know more about, you know, what are you
• 01:00:22You're touching God. What does that look like to you.
• 01:00:25Do you need something that's going to help you go within more do you need something that's going to be a little bit more of a play by play so you can expand a little further.
• 01:00:33You know what I mean, everybody's so different and that's why I think I was just so stumped with my top five books because I look around. I'm like,
• 01:00:40Well depending on this person color therapy is really great. But you know what I mean, because it's just it depends on what someone wants, but I would say that anything that you choose to expand your mind with whether it ends up being right for you or not. It's still opening you up.
• 01:00:58To a certain space and it's just going to lead you down.
• 01:01:01In a good way, a beautiful rabbit hole of more, you know, um, and my clients definitely asked me, you know what book do you want, do you recommend I read and Michael singer has definitely been one of them. Michael singer untethered soul that's a
• brandon handley01:01:15Great book. Yeah.
• Mona Loring01:01:19It was funny. I didn't see that anywhere here, I think.
• 01:01:23It's out on live
• 01:01:24But, um, you know, I think that it's just about, you know, I know some people that have really opened up because they read the secret as as hokey as people think. The secret is, I think it's brilliant because it helps people got
• 01:01:39The mainstream open up
• 01:01:42You know, and I think that the Abraham books are
• 01:01:45Amazing. Oh my gosh, I forgot.
• 01:01:48My favorite book. I cannot believe it. Jane Roberts, the South books.
• 01:01:52are incredible. They are incredible. And they're not easy reads because it's just
• 01:01:59The things that so basically set is an entity, a spiritual entity that comes out of this woman Jane Roberts that writes these books with her husband dictating basically writing what she's been saying and
• 01:02:11The things that he talks about are just so incredible and
• 01:02:15I remember so early on being like, Well, you know, What would, what would be the answer to this.
• 01:02:20You know, spiritual question that, like, you know, things that you would never How can someone project energy over to another, like how does tell us telepathic. You know, telepathy. Telepathy. Thank you. It's healthy work.
• 01:02:33Say that 10 times fast. Hello ethic telepathy and you know it's it's check the book out. I recommend it to a lot of people. Um, I really liked it on audible because you can kind of just soak it in and listen to it.
• 01:02:49But I would have to say that's probably the coolest book that
• 01:02:54Was a tough one because you saw me struggling trying to cheat by looking around my office finally came out finally came. Yeah, yeah.
• brandon handley01:03:01I love it, I love it. You know, we talked about Wayne Dyer to his movie that I listened to him one. I watched the shift is kind of one of the one of the ones where
• 01:03:15It helped me to make so much sense of things for myself right to understand that, again, like I wasn't crazy like there was like, you know, like many people have walked on this path before me. Right.
• 01:03:29Type of thing and and and and when you understand that you're like,
• 01:03:34Cool. Now let's roll with it. Let's like we know, we know that some things are possible with this and they're going to lead to
• 01:03:42Who knows what but you just kind of you chase it. You follow it. You have fun with it. I love it. I love it all. So let's um let's cap it let's Catholic because obviously we can do this forever.
• Mona Loring01:03:55Every question you asked, you're like, Oh man, I need a whole episode.
• brandon handley01:03:59I believe at 100%
• 01:04:00There. So there's so much down each each spot right he's
• 01:04:05Mad. For me, it's like an awesome English muffins of different
• 01:04:10Where you know I think was the people that you're meeting this would check out your, your conscious living and your conscious PR, right, so where, you know, where should we send people to come, come find you.
• Mona Loring01:04:23Um, you can find me on conscious living PR and Instagram. You can find us at MLC PR. I doubt anyone listening to this cares about. And we'll see if you are but I'm also PRS and my talent firm.
• 01:04:35My personal profiles private just for people I know, but I do have a healing one that I believe it's called I don't usually tell people what it is. So, um, I believe it's healing with Mona.
• 01:04:45It's conscious healing co on Instagram to
• 01:04:47And you could go on and conscious healing co.com if you want to read a little bit more about my background.
• brandon handley01:04:53Awesome. Awesome, great site. Very well done.
• 01:04:56Hey, thank you.
• Mona Loring01:04:58Thank you.