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Brandon Handley 0:00
What is going on spiritual dope, I am chilling like literally in the middle of some some field right down the street from us where it was a farm converted into a park scenario. And it's it's crazy. It's not crazy. It's just great like here I am. It's a beautiful big blue sky. Perfect summer well not even summer spring breeze. Look at 5g I've got it's got 5g here, whether or not it's frying my brain, I don't know. But what I do know is that I'm in the middle of a field. grasses, just perfect. Maybe 60 some odd degrees, some as you can hear the birds and you just feel spring happening. And I'm getting ready to hop on with a few my buddies where we are talking about the Tibetan Book of Living and Dying. Really good book so far really, really interested in it really great. One of the biggest takeaways for me so far has been a couple of nice takeaways so far. But the one of the biggest ones is the Bardo, which is this state of transition Bardot's or the states of transition where enlightenment can happen or awakening can happen. Have to go back and double check the specifics on that. Either way, one of those twos always always a cool thing. Except for so far, I think in the middle of it, especially the awakenings session or awakening, if you don't know what's going on, there's a little bit of being freaked out going on. And in that kind of mess the magic is happening right? You don't know when the middle of all that mess that the magic is happening. You just like this is a fucking mess. Bring that up. It's kind of interesting, a couple of couple of things. One thing is talking to another friend of mine, and just brought up the kind of idea of what's going on in your life. And he brought up the, I think, you know, the idea of turning into a butterfly. And there's a chrysalis state and of course we all know that the caterpillar precedes it all jotted down is like nobody really ever goes back and interviews the caterpillar. Right? Nobody goes back and, and checks the scene to say, it's almost like, I don't even know what you call it. Right? It's like that. You know what? I know that I'm done with this forum. I knows I'm done with this state of being and I'm ready for my transition. Like where is that fucking trigger? Like who does that? Where's that decision made? I'm done. I'm done being a caterpillar. You really can't first of all, maybe you could maybe be like, Hey, where are you going caterpillar on my way to you know morph. I'm on my way to destroy everything I've ever known ever been. So that I may become this this other things fluttery, fucking black guy. And I think about that because there's a guy another guy back in, when I first kind of got started in the space of just, you know, self development, and whatnot. You brought it up because nobody really wants to hear you going through your shit. Right? Nobody really wants to hear about you going through your shit. They just want to know how do you fix it? Because if you're still in this shit, people are just like, I'm in my shit to your and your shit. I'm in my shit. We're all in the sick. We're in the shit together. Right? I mean, you hear people say that. Hey, we're in this shit together. Nobody ever says you know you never hear somebody you know talking about being interviewed while you're in the shit. You hear about people you know kind of before they hit the shit. Oh, wow. They were great people this is how they were before then. Right? Oh, you know, Mary was fantastic until you know somebody spiked to drink one night

after that it's all going to shift or Jerry was great until fucking you know we lost a job and then it all went downhill from there. Nobody see nobody ever talks to the person really, while they're going through the shit. Right? Oh yeah, but he rebounded and now he's great. Oh yeah, but she's rebounded in Nazareth What the fuck happened in the middle there happened in the chrysalis state because again, totally destroyed everything that ever was and that you don't really see that with I think humans too much a lot of times you'll run into somebody from high school or school or an old work colleague and that's pretty much the same as you remember. Maybe a couple quirks or differences or children. But for the most part, they're pretty much not not a whole lot has changed the butterfly. Completely different than the caterpillar like, I mean, two totally two totally different things, right. You don't go over there and say, Oh, hey, look, there's a baby butterfly over there. A butterfly being caterpillar. Like there's a caterpillar. There's a cocoon. There's a butterfly. So what happens in the middle there? And I think that that's, you know, I think that

Unknown Speaker 6:23
some of those pieces that get lost some of those are the pieces that get lost we

Brandon Handley 6:32
we love we love the rebound story. We don't really love to hear about like, kind of what went through the middle there like Oh, shit, man, I was freaking out. Oh, shit, man, this is really scary. Oh, shit, man. Like I was a mess. I wasn't really sure it was gonna work out. But you know, I just kept putting one foot in front of the other. And lo and behold, here I am. For you listen to this podcast. And you know, that a lot of the people that that are on the show, it's not linear, right? There's an idea. And even with that linearity, even if you've got the one person who's like, hey, in five years is where I'll be in my life. They've got the plan. They've got it all fucking worked out in five years. They're their whole fucking right. Right. But while it may appear linear, on the outside, I can guarantee that it was not the universe is not linear. promise you that. It's not linear. We know that it's possible for time to be reversed. Right and small, literally atomic units. So you know, what happens in the middle there? What happens in the chrysalis state what invokes the chrysalis state? Have you gone through it? Have you? Noticeably purposely intentionally said, I invoke the chrysalis state? And what happened in the middle there? Because I don't think we hear enough about that. We hear about the caterpillar, we hear about the butterfly. We never really, we don't interview the caterpillar after the fact we don't gave it's not possible. And we never really get to see kind of what's happening inside that chrysalis state outside of the fact that it's done in a safe space. Right. There's a wall there's a cocoon like that's hardened it's a chrysalis crystalline state even as it's becoming so love to hear any stories you've got as what was it like for you to invoke the chrysalis state? What was it like to be inside of it? Was it like coming out on the other side? In regards to linearity? What was that like? Hit me up Brandon at spiritual dope.co. We'll chat later.

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