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Satyen is the founder and CEO of the multi million-dollar transformational academy WarriorSage. Satyen has impacted over 100,000 students from over 50 countries around the world.

After 35 years of rigorous study & practice in both creating enlightened business growth and developing higher consciousness, Satyen works privately with CEOs, high impact individuals, executive teams who have mastered accomplishment in the financial and public world, but now want a deeper balance, illumination and self-realized equilibrium that he calls Peak Existence.

A remarkable living synthesis of eastern wisdom and western practicality, Satyen combines the power of the warrior and wisdom of the sage to lead leaders worldwide into their highest self knowledge, self-expression and impact. Satyen\\u2019s elite clientele know they are ready for next level integrated fullness, and a life vibrant with purpose, passionate intimacy, connection, significance and transcendence.

If you are ready, Satyen\\u2019s fearless and heartfelt style will transform your untapped potentialities into strengths and the full spectrum of your life into peak existence.

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Unknown Speaker 0:00
Your journey has been an interesting one up to hear you've questioned so much more than those around you. You've even questioned yourself as to how you could have grown into these thoughts. Am I crazy? When did I begin to think differently? Why do people in general, you're so limited thought process Rest assured, you are not alone. The world is slowly waking up to what you already know inside yet can't quite verbalize. Welcome to the spiritual dough podcast, the show that answers the question you never even knew to ask, but knew the answers to questions about you this world the people in it? Most importantly, how do I proceed? Now moving forward? We don't even have all the answers, but we sure do love living in the question some time for another head of spiritual

Brandon Handley 0:36
one. Hey, there's spiritual dope. I'm on here today with our guests. Satyen Raja. He is a co founder with his wife, Suzanne Raja, that founded warrior sage back in 1999. That's the last millennia, right? So it's and they founded it with a mission to activate leaders with powerful missions to bring their dreams into reality. So for the past two decades, Sultana Suzanne utilized her three decades of immersion in wisdom, transformational and enlightenment methodologies to provide hundreds of trainings and workshops, international, Lee teaching 10s of 1000s of students, the art of the warrior, the art of sage and the art of the lover. So Sam, thanks for being on today.

Satyen Raja 1:20
Brandon, thanks for having me. You're nice introduction.

Brandon Handley 1:24
Awesome. So, you know, I usually like to start this off with the whole ideas outside. And I think you'll appreciate this, that we're, we're conduits for like universal energy, right? And whatever is coming through us today is for the listeners like highest and best good. Right? So what's coming through you today for that listener?

Satyen Raja 1:43
Well, it's what you just said that we are conduits, we are the conduit. And one of the foundations of, you know, the philosophy that I am to live by is rather than seek freedom and love. Recognize we are the conduit of freedom and love, we already our freedom and love, we might not remember it, we might forget, look, you and I whoever's listening, we're free enough to step aside a few minutes in the middle of a day, how many people on the planet in the history of the planet, have even the time the energy to do so or even listen to this. So we're in a special category of beings who have the choice to go, I want to learn about being spiritually dope, I want to learn about deepening myself having more prosperity, deepening my content. So means we are already free in many, many, many, many ways. So the appreciation of our current state of freedom is valuable. And we also have to appreciate where do I have love who, where is the love? I have beautiful love with my wife, my family? My, my, my friends? My colleagues, of course, is their lack of stuff is their glass here and challenges here we all will have. And right now the challenges are magnified many fold as we know, from the planet due to all the circumstances. But can we anchor ourselves as love as freedom, rather than neurotically keep trying to seek it from stuff outside of us?

Brandon Handley 3:13
Yeah, 100% I love that, right? Recognize really what we already have, and who we already are in this moment. Right? Without having to go beyond that. You know, as you're talking, it's just kind of reminds me of kind of the Buddha's story, you know, regardless of how real or true it really is. But like, you know, the idea of a woman says, saying, I want to be happy. And the Buddha is like, hey, drop the eye and the want just be, you know, happy. So it sounds a little bit like that's what you're saying, right? And again, look, it's super easy to look around and realize what we don't have. And I think that, that as a Western culture, that's what we've been trained to do. Right? With all the marketing and all the things hey, here's all the stuff you don't have you want this, that's what's gonna complete you. And so, so, you know, I love that I love what you're saying. So but here's what's cool about what you're doing right now, you've been doing this for a long period of time. And as you and I spoke about in the beginning, we connected through a mutual friend, lend right, who I've had on a previous podcast hasn't great conversations, and he introduced me to your book that is coming out. Let's see if I've got this in front of you here, the transcendent CEO, and I wanted to talk to you and share with the audience a little bit about what you're doing in that today. So let's just start off with a very thought and the idea of what does it mean to be a transcendent CEO?

Satyen Raja 4:41
Well, I mean, a very blessed privileged position to be a guide and mentor, supporter of business leaders, founders, CEOs who are leading socially impactful companies that are here for the greater good. And the challenge with business leaders is we're stuck in an old paradigm of extreme reaction, greed, goal setting to achieve more and more money, more and more market gain. And you know, it's predatory. And it's almost militaristic, the idea of like, going to take over this merger, acquisition all the languaging. And the paradigm is based on a military, energetic and paradigm that is dead. If we keep going down that way, we're gonna destroy ourselves. Business leaders are some we are the most powerful people on the planet more powerful than clergy more powerful than politicians. Why? Because wielding Money, money, whether we like it or not, is a power on the planet. Now, it's not the money that's good or bad, or indifferent or neutral. It's how we use it. And how we use it is based on the depth, the resonance of our consciousness. If we're going to meet egoic state, we're going to how much money we have, we're going to correct continuously be voraciously looking for more. If we're in a weak state of being, which is the next evolution, then it's about sharing collective win win. But even that has a limit right now. The next stage of evolution, what I call the transcendent leadership, and the transcendence CEO is a leader who's become aware of the whole, they've had some type of spiritual awakening, they've had some type of Inner Awakening, where now they feel their symbiotic relationship with the whole existence. It's not a mental thing. They're not reading that we are one, they're not intuiting or hoping that Hey, are we interested, they know it, they got they've had some medicine journey. They've had shamanic experiences, they've had enlightening experiences, which have dropped the veils of separation. And now with that Omni wind consciousness, they're able to make decisions run their companies leave their personal lives, from a win for the whole of humanity. This is the next level. And I believe it's necessity. And those who aren't moving into that dimension are claiming that they're going to die, they're going to die on the vine, because that paradigm is dead. And it's self destructive. And whoever is still entertaining, it is going to reap the benefits, or I should say the destruction of that paradigm. But as you know, what you expressed at the beginning, we are in a whole new era where the transmission, the vibration is calling us into Gaia centric, Earth centric, unity. This is where we're going, this is where we're at, let's drop into it and make a difference with our businesses. So that's the that's the essential essence. Yeah, moving forward, it's about taking the path of least resistance and maximum impact, rather than will will will will willful power. We go from mule, to magician. That's, that's

Brandon Handley 7:51
my Ultimate Edition. I like one of the things you threw out there a couple of things you threw out there that I found in the book that also resonated with me was the idea of the Omni win. I mean, I think we we say Win, win win. But sometimes there's a loser in there and looking for those Omni wins in these situations. That's the point we're trying to do. And as you spoke about, we we live in a culture and these corporations that you're talking is the hired mercenaries hired guns, right, you know, that we're talking about a militant state? And, you know, I don't think that you can really approach you know, something that's for the good of all, from a militant stance. Right. And so that's the stuff that you're sharing. And you talk about the Enlightened leader being necessary, right, and how that's going to be the change paradigm and how that's how we've got to move forward. Yeah, my question, I guess is, you know, is that something that you're able to help these leaders cultivate? Or is it something that these leaders have experienced? And then they're like, Well, how do I integrate this new way of being and knowing into my business?

Satyen Raja 9:04
That's a great question. Brad needs both. You know, look, COVID has brought the world together. We all sharing the whole world, sharing a worldwide challenge over the last two years. Right now we've got more current challenges, wars, and all these other things going on. But that brought us together in a way seeing our humanity, it doesn't matter if you're the queen or a popper. All of us are vulnerable to these things, you know, and there's a great equalization in it knowing that in the invisible is our faith. Perhaps this is a humbling of our ego. But I think it's a good humbling and I think it's an invitation for all of us to recognize, I'm not even going to feel fulfilled unless what I'm doing. It has a good benefit for more than just myself and my family and my personal goals. It's not about becoming absolutely give everything away and treehugger and, and not have any care for your personal success. It's personal success and plus plus plus. So the paradigm I like to introduce, you know, the old paradigm was peak performance. Let's go from average in a low peak, then remove ourselves and we're able to get more done, be more effective, create more results in a shorter period of time, with more focus of who we are. Everyone focuses on the peak performance focus for too long burns out, I've seen it over and over families burning out, heads, you know, relationships, going through all types of strife and struggle, even when the businesses are going strong. Why because there's not a balance and equanimity and equilibrium of being. And so I really feel it's time that we embrace equilibrium, having a healthy family life, having a healthy body, having a healthy relationship to spirit to God to truth, to enlightened, whatever we want to call it. And then from the wisdom from oversaturation, in that our leadership in business is now wise, it's not extractive, it comes from wisdom. And this is, this is the era we're going into the era of universal wisdom, which I believe is the most important value right now to embrace.

Brandon Handley 11:35
If you I mean, if you recall out what what Universal Wisdom means, like, I guess, a phrase or a paragraph, what would that sound like?

Satyen Raja 11:45
Wisdom is tapping into the ancient knowing that's within us. That comes from all the wisdom traditions of east, west, north and south. There's things that masters have told us, of every ilk that is familiar, that's resonant. And those ancient wisdoms that our indigenous elders hold our elders hold from all around the world, from all cultures, we've made we've we've put a golden calf on the throne, and that success, money and peak performance, and all these things in that realm. But the wisdom shows us that peak existence is where the diamonds have lifeline. And peak existence is how is my life living, peak performance is you're going towards a goal of having more output more success in one area. Peak existence means I mean, join the whole spectrum of life being with my lady making love with my lady, taking my children out, having fun with my friends, having time to relax, and do nothing and enjoy nature and all the gifts of Mother Nature, as well as being focused on our success. And we're in an era that I've seen with the CEOs, I mentor, where we can truly have all of that without compromising at all the depth of who we are in our integrity.

Brandon Handley 13:10
Yeah, that's awesome. I mean, because, again, breaking away from what we've had for the past 100 150 years, right, I think, to your point, we've seen the we saw the fractures and the fracturing through COVID. Or nobody escaped it. Like you said, Nobody got away from COVID. And, you know, what it did everybody experienced the same thing at the same time. Nobody, nobody got away from it. Right. And that burnout, and the willingness to, to try to continue as as though there were no pain, no pandemic here, nothing to see, right, everything. Everybody's everybody keep moving forward. And that really forced everybody to take a real look at themselves and get close and see themselves for who they were, and ask themselves Am I Am I living this peak existence? Like you're talking about? We don't know what's around the corner? How can I? How can I start living a peak existence? And I think that one of the formulas you give in the books is the five pillars right in the five s? Watch. Is there a little bit about those? Because I think that I think that those are kind of core when essential to not just the peak existence of a CEO but for any life.

Satyen Raja 14:23
Absolutely. So one of my mentors, Kevin nation's business mentors, he shared with me his philosophy of these F's and and so faith, so I call them the I call them the freedoms, faith, family, finance, fitness and fun course you can add more apps to that. But faith is our spiritual connection to ourselves, our belief in ourselves, our belief in the higher power, our connection to the universe, is how connected we are to the synchronous flow of existence is what I call faith. It's very valuable to cultivate. Family of course, you know, we can enjoy all the riches of life. But if our family life if we're not having beautiful relationship and flow in our, with our intimates with our family members, there's an emptiness of life, there's an ache, because our home base is not there. So fostering and putting family people see which one you put first I go, I don't faith, family finance, fitness and fun. Our threads have a strong rope. Any one of them are weak. If you put pull on the rope, it'll break. Each one has to be healthy faith, family finances. There's a lot of focus on earning. But what about saving? What about spending? What about investing? What about dealing with your money from a place of the doubt that there's infinite, but and that you don't own anything, that we're just a steward of all our belongings and our money as we're here that stewardship energy is a very wise way of approaching it, it takes us out of the ego at faith, family finance, fitness. Our bodies are a vessel for our spirit. When we feel strong and healthy and alive and vital. To make love more, we're seeing more, we're respected more, we feel better about ourselves. And we got more energy to fulfill life, faith, family finance, fitness and fun. This is one of the ones I had to work on is a very focused individual. Now, before that, I would burn myself out years back. Now I make sure in my week, every night every day, I've got fun going on. Fun than this and fun with my wife and with my friends fun with my kids fun by just by myself. So when we have these faith, family finance, fitness, and fun, and we water each one like a garden, they all grow together into 12 into a inter weave into a very powerful rope that's unbreakable. And we can scale that all the way up to heaven.

Brandon Handley 17:10
That's awesome. And, you know, I think that one of the things that, you know, knowing about you is a strong background in the martial arts was I think, you know, just has always kept you probably connected into at least some type of reflection, even though at certain points sounds like you, you went real hard, right? And just life in general. And I think that that's just kind of that's kind of the path, right? That's kind of this, this is what everybody tells you, you're supposed to do. Santana go go hard, go strong. Don't stop until you sounds like a Michael Jackson. So I'm gonna stop. So you had enough. But you go strong. And you find yourself you know, looking back and like what was all this for? Because you you find that you maybe you lost touch with your face, you find touch that you maybe lost touch with your family, and the fun. Maybe you've had a success and you're fit but like there's this vast amount of emptiness. But uh, you know, I know that last I read at least you know, you've you've got the Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, which I think that as we go, I practiced this myself and I love it. I don't think jujitsu. Yeah, listen without it. Listen, listen, 530 in the morning, you know, I jump out of bed and I make that part of you know, three days, three days a week, it's 530. In the morning, I'm on the mats, you know. And this, I love it. Because there's no ego there, right? There's no ego, you're you can't be in any better state of flow than when you're trying not to get choked. Right. And you know, as we're as we get older, we're still able to do this. And this is another place where we can put into practice maybe slowing down and teaching others Hey, listen, sure, you can go super fast and get it but maybe you're relying on your, your piss and vinegar as it were right. Versus like technique and just a practical, purposeful application. And again, this is stuff that I'm seeing you teach in the transcendent CEO, right. So when you approach are people approaching you or you going to companies and pitching I'm just kind of curious what this looks like from, you know, not necessarily even a business perspective, but how are you being approached and how's this I transcend the CEO reaching the ears of CEOs that might be willing.

Satyen Raja 19:22
Most of my clients are all by referral. They've heard me on a talk or heard me somewhere, or I've shared on the stage for I've expressed in a conference. You know, like I invited do keynotes and such and, but, you know, I've been very blessed to have you know, my focus has not been on marketing. So this is for anyone in business. My focus has been on serving my clients so they have exceptional experiences, and results in their own personal lives, which then become a 10 times better marketer than anything I I could write or market or put out in ads and all that. That's because that's me, that's what's worked for me. For me, I just take my heart, my soul, when I have my clients, I want to flush out their dreams or aspirations, I want to take a look at the good, bad and ugly, what's working, what's not, where's their shadow, where's the ship, they don't want to look at and go right for that fearlessly. And then take them there. Why? Because as leaders, we got to we can't bullshit around with our shadows, we got to strengthen them, we got, we can't put them aside and show our shiny successful side. And inside, we got termites in our, in our cart or in our consciousness, right. So because I have that, how can I say, ferocious love to accept only the highest in those I work with, because I know they've got missions that are valuable, I don't bullshit with them. And I believe that my experience has been that attitude of love with fire, with care. Seeing the results in their life, that's where I put all my deepest investment on, and I trust the universe. In the return that results of that.

Brandon Handley 21:17
That's awesome. And I love reading some of the stories in the book of you hanging out with Stuart while to write like so. I mean, you've had some really connections with some cool people, you've had this great journey, and you're able to share this with others to, you know, look, create connections to leaders, and oftentimes, you know, I think it's great look, for everybody to experience, you know, some type of enlightenment, some type of awakening some type of spirituality, right, like, you know, definitely connects with your all your five, right, your faith family, you know, but one of the things that I think is most neglected throughout, again, Western culture, and just speaking primarily from experiences face, right, and the spiritual connection, we're like, Listen, I'll get to that, like when I'm dead. Right. Like, I'm willing, I'm willing to, you know, gamble on the deathbed with that one. But I think that, you know, that's, that's too late, personally, and so, you know, having a CEO speak to you, you know, from that level, opens that up for the company, or the people that are, you know, within there to just say, wow, you know, if he's doing it, and he's talking about it, and he's sharing it, I might need to check this out. Right. Is that kind of the idea? Yes, yeah. Let's hear more about it.

Satyen Raja 22:37
We follow people we trust, we follow people that are demonstrating lifestyle lifestyles that we value. There's a lot of great operators, a lot of bullshit con folks. There's all types of talk, talk talk. We've got Tech Talks every weekend going on great talks, who is doing the walking? Are we doing the walking? Are we doing the talking? So one of the things is to discern what's a talker, who's great at oration, and who's embodying and living it. My only concern is that we live these ancient principles and where I start, and everyone is invited to this, I believe a foundational start, is awakening to your true nature, the spiritual side. Now, faith to me is not belief in something that I don't know of. Faith is having an experience, of divinity, of union of truth, of that of essence, if you will, of enlightenment, from the experience orienting our life, to become Gerland with the truth of who we are not the identities. The shallowness is of ourselves, or the, if you will, the wobbliness is within our own psyche, but identified with the essence and you know, all the leaders, I take through the coaches that we got different levels, right I have, I've got about 300 coaches in my organization. And the first thing that we do with our clients is we take them through what we call kinjo ke NSHO. That comes from Japanese Zen tradition. And it's a process which helps people dissolve the barriers of what they're not and who they're not, and come into their true nature. Like for the first time, they wake up to know who they are, I am. Once you have that essential experience, everything you do if you're a business leader, you're a father, a mother, an athlete, you're an everyday person working, everything will be far more deeper, harmonious and connected to the universe, because you've discovered who you are. So that's an essential I'm going to recommend and challenge invite everyone to experience

Brandon Handley 24:52
so as you would recommend that they check out what Kensho is or do you have something else that would help them to dissolve those barriers, right? Yes.

Satyen Raja 24:59
Absolutely, and they can download that free on our warrior sage.com website, we've got three activations one is called fight. One is called the abundance activation. It's a one day complimentary, totally free, no strings attached seminar that you do at home with your beloved's friends, family members. There's another one called relationship activation to really up level your emotional IQ and your skill sets in all relationships, including intimate. And then the power activation is awakening your enlightened power, not the power of the ego, it's dissolving, it's enlightening, and all that's available, absolutely free, you can download it, experience it for yourself, it's less lecture, and it's exact guided processes. So get a friend, family member, a spouse, a child do with each other, and you see the results. Okay.

Brandon Handley 25:51
Now, I love that. And a couple things in what you're saying here, too. I don't know if you blanked out and on the I am when it becomes too like who you are. Because it's almost ineffable, right. Like, it's this type of thing where like, you find out who you are. And that's it. There's, I think you talked a little bit earlier in the beginning, there's a there's a knowing, right, there's, there's no disputing what had happened. In that moment of awakening, of accessing realization, activate whatever you want to call, like, there's so many different ways you can do it. But like, once you're there, and you hit it, you're like, oh, shit, right, like everything. There's a big ol, like, everything just kind of moves to the left or whatever, right, like everything. In that moment. Everything is different. And even then, and I think that I think that a big challenge for a lot of people is to realize, you know, the awakening, that's just the start. Pray, I mean, like, the awakening is just like, Okay, you just got here. Thanks for showing up.

Satyen Raja 26:59
When we go to bed at night, right, we sleep. When we wake up in the morning, it's not the end of the day, the waking up is the beginning of the day, right

Brandon Handley 27:06
first? Yeah. 100% 100%. And I think that there's a challenge to a couple of things that you're saying. It's like, again, not power isn't an egoic sense. I remember. And this was I was just beginning, even just the podcasting and feeling, feeling encouraged to step into myself, right when I am stepping into, say, stepping into my power and talking to peers and said, you know, wouldn't it be great if you could step into your own power into your own greatness or like, wow, I'm not great. And so what is it that is keeping people from accepting the truth of who they are.

Satyen Raja 27:46
It's the attachment to the identities that keep us safe, secure, and huddled in the known. Okay, safe, secure and huddled in the known to discover who we are. We have to have the willingness to go I know who I am already. I'm a father, I'm a husband and this and that of that I'm a friend of someone, I'm a son of my father. Those are all identities, all labels, your schooling your education, as you shared when one discovers who they are, it's like a spiritual soul orgasm, a recognition of who I am. That goes beyond words. It's beyond this world beyond this earth plane. There's no words for it. But we can talk about it I can talk about orgasm but if you haven't experienced orgasm, it's so much more than that what can be spoken about even you can talk volumes on it but one experiences profound in the same way waking up or what the Japanese called Kensho or in India Yogi's call it Samadhi in English we can call it the direct experience or the direct consciousness of your of who you are and what you are. So we call it the our I am this we can hear it. You can meditate you can do mantras or I am you can feel the center of I am this but it's not full enlightenment. It's that it's not a full awakening.

Brandon Handley 29:17
Right there's a there's like I I consider myself awakened but I don't consider myself enlightened. Yes, right. So I mean, but I would still consider awakened just a different plane than I'd had existed before. Right as no better no worse. And it's look everybody's a Buddha, right? Like I get it like it resides in everybody. But there's still there's still more right? I just wanted to call that out, right? Like I don't

Satyen Raja 29:45
in Japanese. In the zip tradition This can show or the initial waking ups. And Satori is a term given to sustain enlightenment which comes after maturation guidance, support or after the initial awakenings that so Satori represents the sustained state. And there's depths of that as well, right

Brandon Handley 30:10
now, and I say, I don't know, right, like I'm my first time through. So, you know, so I guess the question I would have to write let's, you know, gain transcendence SEO, I think what you're doing in this is really awesome. Do one of the things that in the book, you recommend to use it as almost an Oracle? Right? You kind of open it. I don't know, if you mean Oracle, similar to like the eaching, you kind of open it and you get to a point, you're like, hey, what's on my mind at work? Today? Think of a reflective question something that's, you know, hard on me, opening the transcendent CEO book and be like, Oh, here's some stuff that I could work on. This is this is indicative of what I'm going through? Oh, here's some answers on how I can apply this.

Satyen Raja 30:54
Right? Absolutely. You know, I designed it as an Oracle, anyone who is in business, or you're interested in leadership, or a leader, you're might not be a CEO, or founder, CEO. But we all are leaders, you might be the CEO of your household. You might be the CEO of yourself. Right? So this book goes into these principles, you can open it anywhere can incite reflection stories, wisdom, attunement. So it is like an oracle or an eaching, or a tarot deck. Easier to read that way. That way, you don't have to start getting to the end.

Brandon Handley 31:34
For sure, and so of the people that you've shared this with and have worked through with, what would you say, has been the largest impact or Aha, teaching out of this book for for some years.

Satyen Raja 31:50
It's what I said earlier meal to magician. tendency is in the wet in the whole world is to be overly willful, especially in leader ship positions, willful willful Drive, drive, drive, keep going take a breather, drive, drive drive, and it produces results. You know, the old paradigm, massive action equals massive results, it's a great paradigm. What we don't hear is also equals massive burnout. Behind the scenes, we don't hear about people exposing Crush It, massive it, right, right. When you say that, you'll end up being crushed, I've seen it over and over and over, every person that continues down that road, always has some backfire a boomerang backlash, some on physically, the relationship, something pans out, they get some they get burnt out, and they don't know what's going on, or they lose their fire. So the paradigm of going from hard work to a transcendent leader is the trans transition. And to deal with that we have to deal with our we have to transform our addiction to doing we have to transform our addiction to control. And, and and when we do that, in fact, the control and the commanding becomes 100 times stronger. You become like Archimedes, you get you're able to lift the whole world up with this with a lever, because you're not using willpower, you've made your internal lever so powerful, right? That's the key. That's a good formula to magician. And that's, I think, the essence of this book.

Brandon Handley 33:34
And you've also got, you know, transcendent culture, which is the companion book with this. And to be honest, I haven't had a chance to jump into this one just yet. But, you know, is this where the leader can kind of refer to and how to grow and nurture their, their people talk to us a little bit about the comparison.

Satyen Raja 33:52
Yeah, exactly. You nailed it, Brandon. So the transcendence seals for yourself and your own mastery and leadership, transcendent cultures. Now, how do you bring that into your teams, they bring in your family, your team dynamics, whether your team is 2345 or 1000. This we've always sages also chief, a cultural adviser for numerous companies. And we also bring in programs of coherence taking teams that are in chaotic state into coherence in less than two hours. That's powerful. That's part one of our reputations and fame and claim to fame is that we take the most ragtag crazy wild set of discontinuous and chaos filled teammates in a zoom call for two hours, we can really literally dissolve the major obstacles that got in their mindset and get them aligned and coherent and moving forward in a good way. And that to me, I believe human dynamics is the essence of and supporting the Hello in the happiness and the joy of healthy human dynamics in an organization, that's the key to making them grow. And 20 100x, which now I've seen with the companies, I mentor, many fold TEDx as a minimum that happens to them over over the time they work with me.

Brandon Handley 35:19
Sure enough, super powerful. And I think that, you know, science is proving out, you know, a lot of what you're saying how you put people in this state of being, you can expect to have these type of returns the, the old fear and, and again, militant, you know, crack the whip or whatever, you know, run them down, run a run to the ground. Sure, to your point, we can get results that way. But, you know, you're gonna toss that one out and go get a new one. Or they'll quit.

Satyen Raja 35:44
Right, right. Turnover churn rate.

Brandon Handley 35:47
Right? So hey, Satya, I always been awesome. And I love it. I know, we don't have too much more time left. What, uh, what I got here for you is the fun portion of the podcasts. And it's what I like to think about is that this is a little bit like spiritual speed dating, right? Like somebody's gonna tune into Satya as podcasts, they're gonna be like, well, do I feel like spiritually dating site 10. And what he has has brought out for us today. And to that end, I've got a couple of questions, I'd like to ask you, you ready? Please? All right. And I know you're married, but spiritual Bachelard. Number one, you know, why are so many people depressed.

Satyen Raja 36:25
They don't know what their true mission and purposes are. They're denying it, or they're avoiding it. Because even when you find what you're what you're really here for, right? And the way to ask, the way to know that is take some time, get a journey going or go for a walk, sit down at a river sit down in nature underneath a tree, pick a few hours, universe, me and my soul. What is mind to do now? What is not mine to do now in the world? Have a sheet write down what is mine to do? What is not mine to do? What is mine to do? What is not mine to do? Do that for an hour or two, you'll get more honed in to your center of what you're here to do when you do the depression will start to alleviate

Brandon Handley 37:11
now. And, you know, that's also one of the exercises in the book, if I recall correctly. And so there's more more like that in the book. So thanks for sharing that. You know, then that reminds me to the call of the hero, right? Joseph Campbell's called the hero, right? If you find out what your purpose is, and you kind of reject it, it's just kind of keeps nagging at you. Right? And it keeps following you around. Like I'm still here, you still got your thing to fulfill. We talked about this? I don't know. I'm not a soul contract guy. Because I don't know enough on it. But But soul contracts, right? Say, Hey, we said we're gonna do this. And we showed up. So thank you for that answer. What is the relationship between science and religion?

Satyen Raja 37:53
Well, in this day and age, all the lines are blurring, and science, philosophy spirituality are getting closer and closer together. Because we're noticing that universal laws or universal laws, doesn't matter what spectrum you're in. And I believe science. As we go deeper into the quantum mechanic dimension, it sounds more and more closer to spiritual dimensions. And one day, I believe will be a place where there's no distinction, where it's just a universal science that takes into account the observer, the subject, relationship, and all of the whole spectrum of the game.

Brandon Handley 38:34
Yeah, I think it's been a lot of fun to watch them converge over the past couple of years. I don't know about you how kind of excited you are. When something comes out. You're like, oh, I can go to somebody and be like, it's not all woowoo here it is. I've got something for you. Right.

Satyen Raja 38:49
But some of my top CEOs are like, some of the world's most brilliant scientists, like scientists, AI genius is a biotech geniuses I'm talking geniuses, right? But when they get the taste of the spiritual flavor and the awakening, they're like, Wow, the maturity of their science goes to a whole new level. Wisdom informs science.

Brandon Handley 39:14
Sure. There's a correct me if I'm wrong, like I mean, there's a you know, what's the opposite of constriction? Right, there's a release, right? Because they've been going through constricted and they've been going through like, forcing and if they can sit back, release, relax, and I guess you receive, right is kind of how it works out. Well. Hey, Satsang has been so much fun. Is there anything else that you wanted to share prior to sign off today?

Satyen Raja 39:39
Well, you know, I'm just very grateful for you your energy, the good work you're doing out in the world. Thank you for sharing and asking me these great questions and everyone who's listening. You're welcome to come to our website, Warrior sage.com. And there's many, many different teachings and interviews with all the great CEOs there a lot of inspiration, and it's just been a pleasure, my friend. And let's let's keep banding together for the greater hole right now. Okay,

Brandon Handley 40:04
I appreciate it Santana thanks for being on today.

Satyen Raja 40:06
Let's brother be well I

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