Hallucinogens | Jung | Your Gifts
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What is going on? What's going on man? We are taking a quick walk that's you and I right now
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through
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local park.
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Just kidding, just gonna walk in the afternoon
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just taking some
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fresh air change of scenery. We have been inside of
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the quarantine zone right?
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of 2020 and
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sometimes just need to get out everything's fine.
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And everything's great.
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Except for you know, you're in the same place all the time. And I think I think that we all love I love change of scenery, right? I don't know about you, but I love change of scenery. But as as I've been doing this quarantine bit and spinning up spiritual dope, having some just just awesome. Really awesome. Some conversations with all kinds of people in the spirituality space
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in all spaces in general, really. And
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a couple conversations popped up one of them that popped up
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was this conversation of
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kind of
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knowing that you're gifted,
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right? And having that gift
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seemingly always be right out of
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reach.
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And I can I can relate to that one. Somebody had mentioned that one to me and, and I get it. There's this piece of you, that you are. You're always being told, hey, you know, you've got this specialness about you or perhaps one day, you know, you were like this and kind of as a child I always saw, you know, we're, we're in this kind of star seed, indigo child thing. I'm not sure how many of you guys are into that. But, you know,
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I'll throw this out there. We're kind of like in a hippie 2.0
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scenario here, right? And there's many of us that were,
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that grew up
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as a, you know, kind of us original Star seeds as it were, right? This is kind of where everybody ended up getting like sky or rain and meadow and, and, you know, some child or
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whatever.
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But
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you were always told that there was something special about you, and it's like, it's killing you because
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it's right there. You know, it's just,
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it's just on the other side, and it's like the outside of what you know. And if you've listened to
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the doors,
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I think that that's what he's talking about. Go ahead and bring onto the other side. And even then, you have this kind of experience where you touch on that greatness of kind of who you are and, and and what you're about. And
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it's fleeting
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for a moment because that's been
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my experience anyways. And you know, the second conversation that kind of came up was was kind of about
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psychedelics.
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Let me see if I saved the picture of the specific on the psychedelics piece, as I'm kind of trotting around out here, because I want to make sure that I touch on it. It was like was it psychedelics as just psychedelics, or was a psychedelics in certain use cases and so So for me, that was kind of like an interesting one because I just written something
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about
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psychedelics myself, right?
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And the deal is,
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I'm gonna, I'm gonna come at it from the perspective of can't find the piece right now. Um, you know,
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this is a, it's kind of like,
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it's kind of like anything else, right? anytime that you
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you take any drug for example, you know, you maybe use steroids to bolster up and bulk up, but like, you know, you stop taking them and then that kind of goes away or you use steroids or some other kind of, you know, enhancement drug. But then when it goes away, you know, you can't you can't function without it. Right or when you are on it, you know, you mute Or you kind of destroy other pieces about yourself?
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So it's, it's like,
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yes, it works for something. But it takes away from something else. And to me, you know, that kind of disrupts what kind of, you know, spiritual dope would be about right spiritual dope would be about
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how do you
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how do you access you know that? That kind of thing
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all the time.
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Right? How do you how do you access that the greatest parts of yourself without needing to rely on some type of external inducement, as it were, which is, and that's where kind of meditation comes into play, but the biggest, the biggest part about it is I'm just scoping out this weird little
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place here.
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So how do you how do you access the best of who you are, and bring that with you everywhere that you go
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without having to rely on something
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from the external, that's drugs, that's somebody else doing something because you said they needed to do it. That's, you know, in all times in all places, right? And to me, that's your inner self. That's your inner being. That is bringing all that you are being present in every moment. And sometimes that's hard, right? Like I said before, like, I've access parts of it, but not in all the time. state of mind. Right. I access it through meditation and And, you know, through through one kind of long term
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as a as a spoke about numinous experience
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and as far as you know as it relates
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to
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drugs and psychological
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pharmaceuticals, LSD, mushrooms, mescaline. weed, I mean, you know, of ecstasy, you know, any one of those, right? Any one of those that you touch on can bring you real similar experience. However, unless you're using it, quote unquote responsibly, you're generally using it just kind of like a as a as a place to go escape. And, and, to me, it also shows this just kind of like you're relying on something outside of you. Right and and when you when you do that when you when when the only way that you can feel that way comes with its own set of dangers, right? least I was listening to Terence McKenna give a speech the other day about smell st and how it restricts the blood flow to your brain and you know has potential to cause seizures and like, make sense. Go What do you say? Have I experienced that? Yes. You know, and you know, what is the risk worth it? It's a risk versus you know, worth the reward is at the time you say, Sure. Yeah, man, this is great. This is amazing. Whoo. But then there's other times too. So it's like if you use it responsibly in a responsible space, you're in the quote unquote right headspace because imagine you
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You already are
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in your own fucking head 10 2100 X that
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in your own head and then you're you're you're not in the right place mentally or you're not with the right people who can support your your trip,
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right your, your psychological
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assistance trip man like I mean, you want to call it expansion and you want to, you know, say this all these other things that are expansive, but really, you're just in your own fucking head
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and you're in real deep
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and you can have some bad experiences and they suck.
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They make like, you know,
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you know, imagine, you know, several hours of just feeling at your worst times 10 Okay, now, I'm not saying that you can't have these other experiences. They're super awesome and super nifty and and really just life life memorable, right you know things that you totally change perspectives and, and knit all these really cool blankets and covers i don't i don't know what the fuck you knit, but you knit them together tapestries of, you know, things that are woven. But it's still pales in total comparison
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to what is possible
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by
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your own creation
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without those drugs without the need for pharmaceuticals without I mean, now listen, I don't have a I don't have an iOS experience to give you. I don't have a pod experience to give, you know, I don't have you know, look, those maybe those are the ones that you dropped through the fog. So you're And you're
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right. And you hear stories like that?
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Is that an experience that you want to have?
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Is that an experience you want to have? You want to be dropped from the center of the earth? Do you want to be dropped from the center here? That's a great question. So a mom walking here, I've got a picture of just some amazing
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mushrooms, and this
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great, kind of
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three of them in a row here, spot. So, you know, what does it all mean? And how's that all break down? Those are just a couple of conversations that I've had this week that I thought that I would share with you as it relates to you know, spiritual dope.
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And then, and then finally,
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one of the other conversations got got me into listening to Carl Young's read book and it's really just a you know, I think a him
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you know,
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going through kind of I haven't finished it yet I don't I don't
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have any super
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deep knowledge about kind of where he was when he did it or what he was about. But
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you know, I
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recognize a lot of what he's saying. And and and and what he's talking about the mental space that he is
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the mental space that he is occupying and
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in that mental space
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he's uh
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you know, he talked he goes through his midlife crisis he goes through like his midlife and and what's funny is is he had done he finds it very similar way that I did is like you either kind of accept it and you dive fucking i mean do into it. And there's a lot of power in there or you resist it or you shut it down and you're like, Nah, that ain't for me. All right, and who does some people that's the way it is, right? You know, they get out it's literally the red, blue, red pill, blue pill. And then you know, once you take once you make a choice, there's really no kind of no going back as it were. So he goes, he goes deep in it. And the thing that I recognize with him is that he's coming through a mostly Western culture, right? I mean, look, he's in psychology, which is just brand fucking new. Listen, guys. I mean, for those of you who who have been to a psychologist, psychiatrist or anybody like that, let's let's, let's be honest, this is a this is a quote unquote, science of the mind. This hasn't existed for that long. 100 hundred years and change as you know, from young and, you know, Nietzsche and those guys and, and we put a lot of stock into something that that hasn't been around for a long time. And what happens is that, uh, you know, when you're developing something like that, your mind frame you can only you can only comment something from your own personal experience No matter how much you read, right and your own perception of something else, no matter what you read. So, you know, those spots and time that these guys make make their ascertain motions and, and claims, you know, they're based off of certain experiences and sometimes those don't always get revised. Right. You know, 20 years goes by and like on, like Madonna, for example, when she talks about how she was in her 20s and 30s versus when she grew up and got older. She's like, I don't know what I was thinking. I was just saying some stupid shit because I thought that's why I was supposed
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to Be right.
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And so young talks a little bit about like, just just being in a new space, just kind of handling the space from his own perceptions and experiences and from Western civilization. And as he is going through, he gets exposed
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to
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the the eaching I think he calls it like the yellow flower as well, which is one that I'm not familiar with, but he's also exposed to Kundalini and you know, the these spaces which which most Western society hadn't been exposed to, before and, and so when we,
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from society at large make these transitions
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into
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you know, this midlife crisis, crisis of identity and all this other stuff. And Wayne Dyer calls it like the the
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shift
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and we don't have a framework For we lose, you lose your fucking mind, right? Yeah. And if you lose your mind because you nobody talks about it because they're afraid to share it because they're afraid they're gonna be looked at in in with some side eye which is one of the reasons why it took so long for the red book to be published and share it out. Right there wasn't a space that the family was comfortable in was sharing, sharing it. And to me that's a great detriment because you know, the opportunity been there for so long.
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To let others know
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that it was okay to have these experiences. It was okay to be that lost in your own mind to have those.
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I don't know I'm not done with the book yet.
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But to go through that mental space to explore All of who you are, and and you know not necessarily just be trapped in the body in the in the vessel that you you know you kind of plod along in but you know, understanding and being deep in the mind deep in the psychosis and and understanding that once you you know dip your toe into that pool, it is infinite it is infinite, right it's a it's a pool, an infinite pool.
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I'm sure there's like, you know, some trademark and shit in there. But
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the thing is,
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I guess what I'm trying to share here is
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if you find yourself in that space
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you're not the first one.
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You won't be the last one.
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And if you find yourself in that space and you find yourself listen to this podcast and chances are you're in the right space.
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We're all kind of going you know that what's the what's the line? Right? Right. was fighting dragons or whatever? I'm trying to tame mine. I don't know, I don't know that right. I don't have the right terminology for it. Because it's all newer to me. And I'm still looking for the right language for myself to to share this out with but that being said, I wanted to share those pieces of conversations with a few of the people that I talked with, as it related to the podcast, you know, for if you are, if you're out there looking for your gift, and you can't seem to find it, stop looking outside. It definitely resides on the inside and you've already got it. It's just how do you want to use it? What does that look like for you? And you know, imagine that that gift that you've been told about has fully developed? What are you gonna do with it? And what's housing and what's So I kind of look like when it shows up in the world if you're if you're again if you're the beginning of this space and you're wondering if you should take the leap into it or away from it say fucking take the leap take the leap and do it there's there's kind of like the last frontier to this space is not the last frontier we are here living as human beings and we have no fucking clue how we got here we have no fucking clue you know, we know that the the bits and pieces that pump our blood and do all these other things, but
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where does that come from?
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Yeah, who what is that life that's making that happen for you. And you know, if you want that's something worth exploring to me. And that's something that we will continue to explore in this podcast and that's what we're going to continue to do is how do we once we find these bits and pieces within a How do we leverage them in our daily lives to to just, you know, have a more fulfilling, more powerful, more impactful life. Alright, that's it. We'll talk to you later.
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