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Arizona Bell is the co-founder and CEO of Spirit Guides Media—a growing media network that's dedicated to truth and driven by Spirit—and the host of the podcast A Matter of Life and Death with Arizona Bell. A grief coach and afterlife expert, Arizona is an inspirational speaker with the message that examining death and what happens to us after death is the absolute best way to live our richest, most meaningful lives here on Earth. A rising voice in the spiritual community, she appeared as a panelist on George Noory’s afterlife expert panel at the Afterlife Research and Education Institute Symposium in 2018 and speaks regularly at various conferences and events. Arizona’s book “Soul Magic: Ancient Wisdom for Modern Mystics” is available now.

Arizona stopped by on Spiritual Dope as we covered all types of things:

What exactly is it about examing death that can inspire you to live your best life?

How do you transition from writing for medical journals to spirituality?

Different ways to pray & what exactly is OG meditation?

Make sure you check out everything Arizona has going on!

Catch up with Arizona on Instagram:

• brandon handley00:014321 Hey there, Spiritual Dope. This is Brandon Handley on with another outstanding guest Arizona bell, and she is the co founder and CEO of Spirit Guides Media
• 00:15A growing media network that's dedicated to truth and driven by spirit and the host of the podcast, a matter of life and death with Arizona bell
• 00:23A grief coach and afterlife expert Arizona is an inspirational speaker with the message that examine that. And what happened was, after death is the absolute best way to live our richest, most meaningful lives here on her.
• 00:35Arising voice in a spiritual community, she appeared as a panelist on great George Norris afterlife expert panel at the afterlife. Research Institute education Institute's symposium in 2018
• 00:47And speaks regularly at various conferences and events Arizona's book sold magic ancient wisdom from the modern mystics is available now or is. Oh, thank you so much for popping out today, how are you
• Spirit Guides00:59Hey, thanks for having me. Brandon, I'm doing really well, actually, uh, you know, you never know in 2020 with ups and downs of of everything. But today I'm doing great. I'm feeling good. How about you.
• brandon handley01:09I love it. Right, like 2020 if ever there was a a year where you seize the day right you take it for all that you can get out of it because you don't know what's around the corner right
• Spirit Guides01:20And absolutely, if you're not. If not now, when right
• brandon handley01:26I love 2024 for what is actually kind of brought brought to us right arm. I think there's opportunity to
• 01:32Do what you and I are doing on really kind of dig deep and live our authentic lives because you don't know what's around the corner. Really presented itself in 2020 that's my honest opinion.
• Spirit Guides01:43Absolutely. And just, I'll just riff here for a minute, in my personal life. That's how it worked out.
• 01:48You know i i hit rock bottom and hit a period of grief in my life. And next thing you know, I'm like, Okay. Life's too short. And it really put the fire under my butt. And I got to step in and live in my purpose. And I think on a collective level that's what's happening with 2020
• brandon handley02:03Is what it looks like right a lot. There's a lot of raw files on
• 02:06A lot bombs and and not to laugh, but it's again just giving us the opportunity to bounce back. And so our spiritual resilience and what that but that kind of shine.
• 02:15But they kind of shy so I like to start these off with, like, you know, the idea is that the creator speaks through us right and
• 02:25Universe energies, energy, whatever speaking through us today and it's delivering a message to one of our listeners that can only come through this instance right so what is that message that you would deliver to that person today.
• Spirit Guides02:40This is man, this is interesting because right before this, I got on. And I do this typically
• 02:45Every once in a while. I forget, but it's kind of my routine to get to
• 02:48Get into meditated mode. Before I go on, either my podcast or somebody else's and say,
• 02:54Let's let the message come through that needs to be heard the most that helps the most amount of people
• 02:59You know, it's interesting. I've never been asked to to pick what that message is. So you put me on the spot, but um you know i i think that maybe the messages. What you kind of
• 03:12You said spiritual resilience. I think that that's the message of this year. And that's the message, maybe of this podcast, because that's where we started going right away. And I think just
• 03:24The fact of the idea that human hearts are so resilient were built in Phoenix's were born to burn and we're born to rise. And I think that it's really
• 03:33Really important to remember that right now, when everything is burning down metaphorically or literally, you know. So I think it's really important that we remember how resilient. We actually are.
• brandon handley03:46Built in Phoenix is built on Phoenix's and
• Spirit Guides03:49I don't know where that came from. That was
• 03:52That was like our archangel
• brandon handley03:54Was it right that's it 100% you open yourself up to it and just allowed to kind of kind of come through.
• 04:02And that's exactly what it is. So, whoever's out there. Just know that you have this built in Phoenix, whatever is kind of sparking you right now. You can kind of fan that and rise up out of the ashes into something more boys than you ever were before. Right.
• 04:18Totally. Um, so let's let them give some background, right, who is Arizona bell
• 04:26Yeah, are you
• 04:27Doing here. Um, you know, give us the lowdown
• Spirit Guides04:30That's literally what I've been asking myself all year. Who am I, why am I here. No, you know, I
• 04:37I would have said, you know, for most of my life. Arizona bell is a writer, like, that was my identity that's that's who I showed up as and then a little, little bit over five years ago, about five and a half years ago.
• 04:50My mother passed away. She was my best friend.
• 04:53She was 59 when she passed away. I was 30 so that's pretty young, relatively speaking for both of us. And we were very, very close in it. It ripped my world apart. And that was my burned down moment and
• 05:05And eventually became my Phoenix moment, and it gave me, like I said, the fire under my butt to really step into my full
• 05:14Purpose and alignment, whereas before I was just sort of dabbling, you know, I was like dabbling one foot into my spiritual purpose and the other into really messing around, and not really committing to anything and
• 05:27You know, just that kind of stuff. And so, you know, after my mom passed. I did the grieving thing for her, you know, I'm still doing the grieving thing, but I did that pretty hardcore. And then I woke up one day and I said okay like
• 05:39I'm going to do this, I'm going to do what Spirit wants me to do. So I basically surrendered to that to spirit to source to God to divine energy, whatever you want to call it. I said, All right, listen.
• 05:52I get that I'm here for a reason. Show me what that reason is. Bring it to me every day and I'll do it. So you know I stepped into service mode. Basically, which I wasn't able to do before I hit rock bottom. And with that.
• 06:05Came the starting of my company, which originally. Like I said, my background.
• 06:09Background was in writing. So I started a little digital magazine called spirit guides magazine, because I
• 06:15I was young, relatively young in the spiritual world and I saw that there was a huge void of spirituality being targeted to younger generations and therefore there's a huge disconnect because
• 06:26People my age millennials and younger weren't really connecting with
• 06:31The kinds of websites and graphics and conferences and kind of that that were sort of felt a little bit outdated, but we were hungering for spiritual knowledge so that was kind of the reason I started it.
• 06:42And that little Instagram magazine has now evolved to a media company we're called spirit guides media and within it. We have podcasts. We're starting a radio station books.
• 06:54Everything courses and thrown a festival with my good friend from conscious living PR Mona. So we just got everything going on. So that's kind of a hope I answered the question. I don't, I don't know how to fully say who I am or why I'm here. But that's a star, I guess.
• brandon handley07:09Sure how that that it's a lot for us to work with. Right. So, that is how you and I connected we connected through Mona, Lauren, who was one of the first guest on this podcast.
• 07:20And you know so super glad that we were able to get connected through her
• 07:25Checked out spirit. Guys, you've got a lot going on there. Looks like it's kind of a community right of built up around spirituality and. Is that what the intention is just kind of a community for, like, you know, will say for a younger generation. Is that what you're saying.
• Spirit Guides07:43You know, absolutely. The intention was to build a spiritual community. And even though we are gearing towards gearing it more towards
• 07:52Visually towards younger people. I mean, spirituality is for everybody. So I have people across the board, you know, but we did. We did kind of dominate that you know
• 08:0318 to 34 demographic. I mean, that's, that is what our demographic is. And of course there's outliers and the young at heart, and all that. But we did want to make it fresh and hip, you know, and that that was an intention and definitely
• 08:17The spiritual community aspect of because for me. My personal story is, I was the lone wolf on the spiritual path. I didn't have, you know, I wasn't raised religious I didn't have a spiritual community, as in the spiritual closet, to be frank, so
• 08:30I did this year I did the spirituality thing by myself. And so I really did want to create a community.
• 08:37For those that might be feeling the same way. And luckily, with the world that we're living in with technology. It's easier to do that, you know, like we're doing this on zoom right now and and so I'm able to hold courses and
• 08:49workshops and the festival, even now online and as membership community, so it's it's all able to be done online and it's it's absolutely to have a spiritual community in such a weird time
• brandon handley09:03And there's no no better time for us so funny you mentioned your demographics, because you're pulling off is right where I started on my demographics. Right.
• 09:12Right on. And that's and that's simply because I speak to my generation, right. So you're speaking to your generation, you know the language you know on the spiritual connection.
• 09:21From that perspective. Right. And that's not to say, like you said, there's gonna be there's gonna be people. There's going to be the outliers that you attract but like you're able really well able to speak to that specific group.
• Spirit Guides09:33Right but but it ends there because I don't do Tick tock. So I don't know.
• 09:37I don't know how much younger. I can get that
• brandon handley09:40Tick tock. Tick tock. Some is
• Spirit Guides09:43For sure.
• brandon handley09:44Somebody platforms right I'm and I'm doing I'm doing what I do.
• 09:49Exactly.
• 09:50So, so I get it, I get it.
• 09:53When you know I want to give also this kind of premise of what you were into before you got into the spiritual realm, who and what type of content. Were you writing before you got in the conscious
• 10:08Conscious right
• Spirit Guides10:09Sure. You know, I think, well, I was doing a couple things. There was what I was doing for work. I was very fortunate to get paid to be a writer. I know a lot of people in the writing world.
• 10:21seek that out. And what that I was writing for what pays. I was writing for medical journals and medical magazines and medical medical medical I was writing for universities, things like that.
• 10:34But the big bucks were in the medical field. I was the editorial director at a magazine for physicians and an assistant assistant editor at a magazine an international magazine for doctors and dentists so
• 10:49And, you know, with my mom passing away, she had cancer. So I was all up in the medical industry going through it with her and I just found myself writing things that I didn't agree with. And so, it hit me.
• 11:01For a while, I mean, I don't want to get to the specifics, but
• 11:06Yeah, just
• 11:09Just the sick, I would call the sickness industry of the of the medical industry and just a lot of things that there were ignoring about actually keeping people healthy and I had to start to believe that maybe there was a an ulterior motive to keep people sick.
• 11:26So I and I was publishing stuff like that, you know, and that's all up for a matter of opinion, but from what I saw firsthand.
• 11:35In the medical world with my mom and the unfairness. I will call it of that world I it wasn't jiving for me on a soul level to be writing those things anymore. So there was a there was a pick on my soul that was like, ding, ding, ding, like, hey, you can't
• 11:49This doesn't feel right and you care about integrity. Don't forget that you care about integrity. Now, on, on the flip side, in my own personal selves. I was always drawn towards I guess soul centered content.
• 12:03I called it love I called it like I was thinking more romantic love than spiritual, but I, I was always wanting to write about love and like
• 12:11That kind of stuff. And like relationships and things like that, but um I so I was doing that on the side as well. I was writing for literary magazines and things like that.
• brandon handley12:21That's fun. That's fun. But I'll tell you what I can. I know what you're talking about with that little prick in the soul resonates with me real hard. I was in the insurance industry.
• 12:32For a little bit. Right. And I was like, well, you know, you would you do demographics and you would do.
• 12:40Do a risk assessment on the group as a whole. Right. And there's a sick person or two in there.
• 12:45You're rich got jacked up with this doesn't make much sense you know these people need the insurance. We're going to raise the rates on them because they need it because they are sick because they are going to use it.
• 12:53Or industry codes right same thing happens with industry codes. If they're in of, you know, riskier business type
• 13:00Their insurance rates are going to go up because they've got the they're going to get the most well this person's gone in here. So we're gonna have to race, the race to cover that. So, um, I left, I left.
• 13:10For very same thing. I was like, for a couple reasons. Actually, one was because of that soul prick right to was because and nothing wrong with people getting off on work every day you know into an office, but I couldn't stand it. I was in my 20s and watching people that were zombies.
• 13:27Right. What are these these these a tweet covered offices, you know, walk right. I was like, I was like, if this is gonna be my toys.
• Spirit Guides13:35Yep. Oh, I completely relate to that. Yeah. I mean, look at me, I'm like,
• 13:40There's no way I can sit in an office. I mean,
• 13:42I gave it my go you know I gave it my best go but somehow every job i got i ended up
• 13:48And again, I told you this before. My mom was German. So I was raised with good work ethic. I know how to work hard and so I'd like work hard, prove myself, and then I'd be like, Listen, I gotta start working from home like this isn't working for me.
• 13:59You know, and somehow I always talk them into it. I guess that's a skill I have but
• 14:04But yeah, I wasn't meant for that either. I totally hear what you're saying and you know that that unfairness. As I said in that you as you just so eloquently described in the insurance industry. It goes, it goes in every, you know, it's like in the banking industry like
• brandon handley14:17Somebody who
• Spirit Guides14:17More like living paycheck to paycheck has to pay the fee to like have a bank account and then you know somebody who has loads of money doesn't have to pay a fee doesn't make sense that
• brandon handley14:28You know, you know it does. In the end, right, like, but you know we're not going to get into it. Right.
• 14:34But it's like, Come on, man. Um, so, so you're writing for like medical journals and all this other stuff. You have this kind of bent
• 14:45You go through this and they jump into the spirituality, his face. I want to want to share with kind of
• 14:51Peoples. And what was it like for you to begin to lead with spirituality. After what you've been doing your entire life and the Jeff overcoming fears deal with anybody was like, What are you thinking that type of thing.
• Spirit Guides15:05Oh, big time. Yeah. As far as overcoming fears. So I'll just say a couple things I had the idea for spirit guides
• 15:14In my head tagline AND EVERYTHING FOR YEARS. YEARS. YEARS. YEARS BEFORE. My mom passed away years I knew I wanted to do it and not even that I wanted to. It was like it was just implanted in my mind my spirits like you're gonna you're going to need to do this.
• 15:28And I started to get worried when the because i'm a i'm an idea person. So I get lots of ideas. I was starting to get worried when the idea didn't go away because
• 15:35It doesn't go away. Dang, it's meant for you, you know,
• brandon handley15:38So,
• Spirit Guides15:39But I was too scared I was making pretty good money to be creative, you know, who am I to do this. And also, like I mentioned, I'm in the spiritual closet. Okay, I'm a party girl.
• 15:50On one on one hand, and then I'm a spiritual girl when I go home like it. I did not have spiritual friends. You know what I'm saying.
• 15:58So there's a lot of fears to overcome. But again, when I got that asked my ass kicked by grief and loss and seeing death firsthand. It was like, all right, you got to live your life and you got to do this. So I basically like
• 16:13I just kind of like came out of the closet and like didn't like I didn't even make a thing of it like I just was like one day I owned a spiritual media company.
• 16:22And, you know, some people were like, what are you getting up to these days, you know, but it was it was a leap that I took private privately and probably shocked. Some people when I did it, but I didn't want to go around having to explain myself to a bunch of people so
• brandon handley16:37That makes a lot of sense. Um, and you're a lot of different types of coaching business Christians question spiritual around to like you know don't have to go share your ideas with others. I'm just go do it right again. Good.
• 16:51And that was
• Spirit Guides16:51That was what I chose to do in that moment, because it honestly it made the most sense.
• brandon handley16:56Of it and then so
• 16:59You start, you know, I don't know how somebody just goes to earning a
• 17:04media company, right. So what was that process like did you have to get investors or she is fired off like
• 17:10On to the Instagram bit or did you find some people to back you, that type of thing.
• Spirit Guides17:15Now it was completely driven by spirit. And again, I was in surrender mode by that point. So I was like,
• 17:22I had an arrangement with spirit is like if you want me to do it. You got to bring it to me because I'm not going to go around.
• 17:28Chasing after all this stuff. So I'm very fortunate that my brother and business partner is a tech developer. So I had that
• 17:37And I basically called up one of my friends who was a another co founder who became another co founder with us, who I knew was into spirituality and could handle you know some of the things like social media all this stuff. And we just got together as a trio and and literally it was
• 17:54You know, like guerrilla style startup and
• 17:58And now the third party left, and it's just me and my brother and we're still we're still running it in that way. And I like that way. I mean, I wish I could sit here and tell you that I had some
• 18:08Big plan, you know, I, my German mom would have wanted me to have a better laid out plan. But I went with it. You know, I just, we just started on Instagram and started hyping it up because that's where all the kids were and we were trying to, you know,
• 18:24That's where the kids Billy says where they used to hang out with. So that's where we were talking to, at that time, and
• 18:30We started to get a following. And then we just launched and and honestly all all I had in mind was to launch a digital magazine.
• 18:39And because I was a writer. That's all I wanted. You know, and I eventually wanted to write books and stuff. But from that is like all this stuff because I made that arrangement with spirit.
• 18:48Now I'm like podcast Aston radio station and festival. All these things were like, not my ideas are now they've overrun the thing. So now it's like it's got a mind of its own.
• brandon handley19:00Reminds me of the Michael singer. Yeah, sort of experiment right um
• 19:07So talk about what is surrender.
• Spirit Guides19:11What is surrender mode. Well, I think there's two kinds of surrender mode. There's a surrender mode where we think we're surrendering
• 19:19Where we say we're surrendering which was me a lot. I mean, I was
• 19:23I've always been drawn towards spiritual and esoteric stuff so I knew I was writing before my mom that I was writing you know happiness is surrender. That's where you find happiness, but I wasn't doing it.
• 19:34I wasn't doing it fully. And I only realized that when I did it fully in that was when I had to when I had to fall to my knees.
• 19:43Because there was nothing else there and, you know, Marianne Williamson, I'm probably going to butcher the, quote, but she says something along the lines of
• 19:51There's a certain desperation that's required before you're ready to face God and something like that. And that's how I felt. And so to me, that is surrender mode where it's
• 20:02I am here to serve.
• 20:05Your like basically I'm using my free will to serve your will spirit.
• 20:12So it's
• 20:13To me, that's true. Surrender mode, not just like, Oh, it's okay. Let it go. That bad thing, you know, but actually surrendering to a will, that's greater than your own that's greater than your own ego as well and showing up for it every day reliably
• brandon handley20:29How do you show up for every day, right, like so. I get it. I love this. I love that. I love the idea of
• 20:36You know surrender. And it's really kind of how we started the podcast right now less fear talk through you to the listener. Right. And then that Phoenix between now and then there's a. It's kind of like the let go and let God right
• 20:50Right.
• brandon handley20:51But to actually, you know, to say it's one thing
• Spirit Guides20:54How to do it.
• brandon handley20:55How to do it without freaking out, man. Right, without freaking out because
• Spirit Guides21:00I never said I didn't freak out.
• brandon handley21:03I love it. So, um,
• Spirit Guides21:04But I will say this, I will say this. I mean I I wake up every morning and I meditate and I pray, basically I do that combo and and part of my prayer in my meditation is to say
• 21:19You know, use me how you want to use me today.
• 21:22And so that's a way for me that's like a action point for me every morning to state my intention which matters a lot that I'm here to be used for spirits will basically. And so whatever shows up for me that day.
• 21:38I'm going to do it.
• brandon handley21:40Yeah assessments. Nice. Right. Um, and then the other part two is
• 21:50Just the idea that these things keep opening up for you. And I mentioned kind of the surrender experiment from
• 21:56Michael singer. And the reason I mention it because once you kind of open yourself up to it to be used to be used in service through this universal power.
• 22:05And I love how you said you know I'm not going for it. It's going to have to come to me right
• 22:11You said you know what you want. This is what I want. But you know what, I surrender for you to show me the way type of thing, you know, talk a little bit about that because I think that that's
• 22:21That's very important. Right. I'm a big fan of the idea is like its first of all, most people won't like you said, you know what you want it right you know what you want to do you want to be a writer.
• 22:31You wanted to start this media company and dig into it, but you didn't know how, but now you got it. Is it fair to say
• Spirit Guides22:39Yeah, definitely.
• brandon handley22:40And so this is the point that I'm trying to drive home is that you don't have to know how, but you do have to make the decision that that's what you want a life and that's what I feel like you've done
• Spirit Guides22:51Right. But I agree with you. You don't have to know how I am living proof of that. You do have to know what what I will say is that asked
• 23:00For what, when I sit in prayer and meditation every day. I mean, I feel like that's a crucial point
• 23:07Because we're
• 23:09I had to. I had to. I didn't know that I always wanted to be a writer because I have that God given skill.
• 23:16You know, so that's a, that's a natural way for me to go but
• 23:22I didn't know. I didn't even know what necessarily either. I had to listen in meditation, like I didn't know that I was going to start a media company.
• 23:30Or a you know that I was gonna, I didn't even know was going to do a podcast. I didn't know the podcast was going to turn into a an internet radio station. I've got those downloads and meditation and prayer. You know what I'm saying.
• 23:42So, but, and I will, I will circle back to the one thing that I did know is I knew I wanted to be a writer, and I knew that starting this digital magazine basically
• 23:53would grant, grant me a following. And I knew that in the publishing world today because I had been told this by writers by published writers that you have to have a following to even get looked at basically
• 24:04Well, and the magic numbers like 10,000, you know. So what we hit 10,000 and then it just kept expanding and expanding and expanding and I was so damn busy. Next thing you know, we're at 50,000 followers and I'm saying to spirit, listen.
• 24:20I still haven't written the book actually haven't even written
• 24:23So I'm not going to go around chasing a book deal if you want me to write a book you bring it to me. Now that sounds absurd.
• 24:29But three months later I had an email in my inbox, saying, hey, we have this book. It's already sold to this major publisher and we think you're great to write it, do you, what do you think
• brandon handley24:40So they have the concept of the book.
• 24:42Yeah works on a writer and they needed a writer.
• 24:45And you read it. Yeah.
• Spirit Guides24:47And that's the thing these days, they already sell the concept of books, but you know now that sets me up to write the book that I want to write to write the books that I really want to write, you know what I'm saying. So
• 24:56It's a pause for a second, though, because you know
• brandon handley25:00There's also the again.
• 25:04There's, there's the idea of, you know, feeling a little bit of a law of attraction space, making the demand was fear, right, or like the idea of you asking it is given and just let it come to you.
• 25:17Right right hand to me right if I'm coming from a law of attraction space. I'm like, Hey, I'm here, how to end up here. You're living example of this right and or of
• 25:28Trusting the universe is another right as like your benefactor, you're like hey universe. This is what I like. You can just go ahead and have that show up. I'm not going to go chasing it
• 25:40But then it shows up, and you're like, Well, what's next.
• Spirit Guides25:43Right. And that, that means that means it's for you because you you can go out there and say hey universe. This is what I want.
• 25:52I'm not going to chase it bring it to me and you're not, you might not get it.
• 25:57Because it's not meant for you.
• brandon handley25:58And that's great too. Right. Like I make the lines of, you know, if I would have had a lot of money. When I was younger, or like an open like have liked it. Like, I felt like I wanted, I probably would have died.
• 26:11Like, I mean, right, it would have been a bad. So the universe is like no
• 26:16No, no bad idea, right, you're not ready for that. Sorry.
• 26:20Yeah, and or we don't want you right now, right, you've got more things to do. And that's, that's another thing that I kind of look at this as like if you made it this far in your life and like you're
• 26:28Still kind of wandering around. I like you know for the for the person that is
• 26:33So meaningful life, you know, perhaps there is and you know you guys start figuring that out because there's no reason for you still be here.
• 26:40One 400 what a trillion to be born and make it through like not get hit by a car or a bus eaten all that crazy crappy thing that G and just in some of whatever we know what you're doing out there. Right. But you've lived
• 26:52And and and and so you've got a purpose and to live it. So one of the purposes that you found is by going through, you know, kind of hitting this rock bottom right, I want to just
• 27:03dive off dependency the grief coach and afterlife expert aspect of it because we haven't yet. Um, let's talk about how you ends up even there.
• Spirit Guides27:12Sure. I mean, it's kind of a wild story, um,
• 27:17Because I, I didn't want to end up there that wasn't I joke. I never thought in my life. I want to be a grief and afterlife expert.
• 27:26Can can promise you that. But, you know, after my mom passed away. And after I did the really hardcore grieving for for a while.
• 27:36I just, I think, you know, I had already started spirit guides and I was like, you know,
• 27:41Like, I want to go train to be a grief coach and it just kind of came to me and I was like, all right, I'll start looking into programs and I did and I found one. And I went and I liked it and i and i just got trained. You know, I just did it, but
• 27:55But, and I wasn't even
• 27:57I didn't even know what I was going to do with it. I just felt intuitively intuitively nudge there. So I did it. And then shortly very shortly after I had a medium ship reading
• 28:09And the medium. Then in the middle, in the middle of it. She's like, and she's a very, very, I had to wait a year to get a meeting with her. She's a very, very popular medium and
• 28:23In the middle of that she's like, What are you doing, I need to
• 28:27And she's like, I'm so I'm not gonna take up your time of your reading. But after this. I need to talk to you what you're doing. Like my spirit guides are telling me I need to talk to you.
• 28:34So we end up having a chat and she's like, Oh, I told her about spirit guides, like I've been trying to reach younger people, and she's like you and then a week later I got an email from her. And she said, I want to invite you to be to speak at this afterlife conference.
• 28:49And I was like,
• 28:51I'm not
• 28:54Know that, like, I'm not qualified to be here and she wrote back, I'll never forget it. And she's like, Arizona, my dear, I have been told that you are going to be a very profound afterlife researcher and you need to be at this event. And I was like, what
• 29:07So I went to this event to and I sat on a panel talking about spirituality, like in younger generations and my mind blew way open because I didn't know much about the afterlife, other than
• 29:21My mom had died. I hope she was still alive and I went to a medium to find out, you know,
• 29:26So I guess the, the, that's the long answer. The short answer is, like, Spirit just drove me there and And ever since that first conference, it was just so obvious that that's what I was going to be doing that I had a place in that world for whatever reason.
• brandon handley29:43So along with being a CEO media company you're also doing like this grief coach. Is that right,
• Spirit Guides29:51Yeah, you know, and you know, I hadn't dove into the coaching part as much as I wanted to. Originally, just because I have been so busy now with
• 30:03And and people grieving everything because grief, you know, grief, there's a misconception. That's grief, just for
• 30:11a loved one who's passed away grief is for any change dramatic change in your world, which we are collectively experiencing like all of the changes right now, so I am
• 30:24Drawing more back into that coaching aspect and I'm starting to get some things lined up in that way because I think it's so important and and I've been basically advised by all of my spiritual advisors that that's something that I need to get going on right now too, so
• brandon handley30:40I love it. Right. So just a little bit about what it means right to
• 30:45Examine death and use this kind of as a catalyst to live our riches, the most meaningful lives.
• Spirit Guides30:53Sure. So what people don't know is that there's so much afterlife research out there.
• 30:59It's not mainstream so we don't hear about it or you know it's not it's doesn't get MAJOR FUNDING so we don't hear about it, but there's so much independent afterlife research outfit out there and there's so much documentation that to me proves that consciousness exists beyond
• 31:18beyond physical death right i totally spaced out your question, though. I'm gonna go go off on a tangent
• 31:24Oh,
• Spirit Guides31:27I get into my afterlife brain. And I'm like, Okay.
• brandon handley31:30So before I let you go into the next piece of what would it so somebody wants to go buy some information for themselves in the afterlife research. Where's the first place that you would direct them.
• Spirit Guides31:43So there's an. There's an organization called the afterlife. Research and Education Institute AR e AI and they are great starting off point.
• 31:53I feel bad because I didn't fully answer your last question, but my mind.
• brandon handley31:56Told me
• Spirit Guides31:58But, uh, anyway. So that's a great place to start off at
• 32:02And they, you know, they are doing research, their funding researchers, all kinds of stuff and and they're just signing up on their newsletter. There's also
• 32:11There's a newsletter that is run by a couple in Australia. That's really famous. It's called the Friday afterlife report and every Friday, they send out a newsletter of all this afterlife research that's either
• 32:23From the past or that's come up in the past week there's tons of it out there. So those are the two places I would start the afterlife report. It's with Victor and Wendy's dammit, and then AR e AI afterlife. Research and Education Institute or
• brandon handley32:38So the question we had was, um, how's examining death. And what happened was the absolute best way to move on.
• Spirit Guides32:48So, yes, yes, yes, yes. See, now that's a very important question. That's why I was having a hard time letting it go. Um, it's so important because of all the research that's out there, which is what I was getting into.
• 33:02It proves beyond a shadow of a doubt in my mind, from what I've seen. And what I've learned and what I've experienced and what I've researched that
• 33:10our physical bodies dies die, but our souls. Do not that we continue to live in the afterlife. Okay, so with that being said, the information that our loved ones that spirit guides
• 33:23That
• Spirit Guides33:25That arc angels, all of these beings and entities that are in on the other side, the information that can be channeled through them is so vital.
• 33:37To how we live our best lives. So it's, it's an interesting paradox because we don't tend to think about death or the afterlife until we're faced with it because we're so busy thinking about life and
• 33:47How we can live our best lives, but from what I've learned is that we can learn a lot about living our best lives from that wisdom that comes through the other side.
• 34:00And it's a shame that people I feel it's a shame that people my age don't get to do that very often because I'm the youngest one at these events. Okay, like
• 34:09I still don't know many people that have lost their primary you know parent or something like that, that in my age group, and my peer group so they feel like they are
• 34:19getting robbed of that wisdom because they're not going to go looking into the death or the afterlife. So I do kind of feel like
• 34:26It's my job to sort of bridge that gap because there's so much knowledge about how we can best live our lives that comes from looking at those more taboo topics.
• brandon handley34:37You know what's funny to me is just this morning I was listening to a song, ya know which one I listened to so many um I got a Swami the chain. I'm the
• 34:49But the idea is that, like, there's one in 1000 that's capable of kind of taking this information right that the what you got. Right, so
• 35:00You're kind of the light is lighting all those around you, as it were, with what you do. So I think that that's kind of the challenge, no matter what age group is
• 35:09Right when you when you kind of stumble across this you know it's like you're saying you're like everybody needs to know that you can live this magnificent way. Let's follow me. We're gonna sneak in and and
• 35:20Rightfully nobody's like I was like, no.
• 35:23Um, but what I want to hit on though is that, you know, when you experienced this grief when you experienced though your mother's passing
• 35:36I guess like ripping the veil right between you and the spirit world and
• 35:42Would you, would you explain it like that. Would you describe it like that. And would you
• 35:47Would you describe your experience with trying to share this information with other people is being challenging and not being able to accept it.
• Spirit Guides35:56Um,
• 35:59Yeah there it was totally an unveiling will say brought me so much closer. I mean, it was even the night, my mom passed away I her apparition came to me and I was awake, like, and she came and hugged me so the veil yeah it thinned an immensely immediately.
• 36:20Has the information been hard for me to get out and for people to accept.
• 36:27I want the answer to be that it's been really difficult. Like for dramatic effect, but it hasn't it hasn't. And I think that's because
• 36:37I'm attracting the people that want it. I'm not, I'm not trying to go out there and be a missionary or
• 36:44Or an evangelical about anything, you know, and I have zero religious ties or affiliation, which is interesting with afterlife. I mean, every, every
• 36:53Every serious spiritual or I'm sorry, every spirit serious religion has believed in the afterlife and has after life.
• 37:01Philosophy and I think that, you know, obviously, a lot of people thrown out religion in their lives. And I think that was kind of like we threw the baby out with the bathwater, kind of thing.
• 37:10So I'm not, I'm not attached to any religion or anything like that. So I don't think that I come off as missionary. I just think I, I tried to share my authentic experience and people who are looking for.
• 37:23Some answers to their own grief. They find me and it's so far the. The result has been one of comforting for them, rather than
• 37:34You know, combative or I don't believe what you're saying. So I maybe I'm fortunate in that but you know it hasn't it hasn't been too difficult. It's actually been very rewarding. I think
• brandon handley37:44I can see that, especially online. What about a person
• Spirit Guides37:48Well in person. It's like I'm
• 37:49Preaching the choir, you know, I'm going to
• 37:52But I will say this, I will say, even in my because I told you about my history as a, you know, being in the spiritual closet and everything, even the people in my life who like my family who's known me forever and
• 38:02You know weren't into these things at all. They just by osmosis have
• 38:07By coming to my events by hearing my podcast, things like that. And now they're there, you know, exploring their own stuff and their own afterlife. And now they've
• 38:16Had certain people passed away and they're reaching out to mediums and investigating like oh yeah I remember Arizona said this, so let me invest it on my own. So it's kind of like planting the seeds, you know,
• brandon handley38:27Not 100% i think that what you've done is, is by your by leading by example you've given them permission. Right.
• 38:33Yeah, showing them that you can step into the space without going on claims.
• 38:39Right, right. That is a good that it can be a good thing. Um, I like that you kind of touched on, you know, kind of these religions and throwing the baby out with the bathwater, and
• 38:51As far as I can tell right religions are kind of like this.
• 38:56Again, just like one of the thousands going to kind of understand this information right and then my kind of wants to do this just the whole
• 39:03You know, when the student is ready, the teacher will appear right and then does you like Panda hated that lines real
• 39:11Quick. Um, but the thing. And I think that's the attraction of some of the Eastern philosophies right because they've been so the console like
• 39:19Christianity bad, you know, the pope did this and you know those priests did that and all these things so that like they just won't accept it, even though, like the exact same thing as being in 99% of the same
• 39:30thing over here and like these Eastern religions and they're all if you got a contract is out, man. Look what I found, like
• 39:36You know, so I think that it really gives us people the opportunity to framework right for for their space.
• 39:43And for everybody else is kind of rejected if there's people like yourself, and I don't like, well, there's this other space. We can hang out into what's been said and all these other places, but you just want to have this different same conversation. Let's do it.
• 39:54Right, right, right. Um,
• 39:56Let's talk about
• 39:57The fest coming up. So this is podcast, I'm probably you know this weekend, which will I know the dates are like 928 or something like that.
• 40:09But you know what's the festival. Let's talk about what you got a
• Spirit Guides40:12Spiritual
• brandon handley40:13On 2020
• Spirit Guides40:14Cool. Yeah. So it's the conscious spirit fest. It's a collaboration between myself.
• 40:20And my company spirit guides media and Mona Loring and her company conscious living PR and so it's conscious spirit fest. It's on October 10 or no, it's not. It's on October 18 I was thinking 10 for October is on October 18 2020
• 40:36It's a Sunday, and it's basically it's an all day online virtual festival, because that's what we're doing now virtual all day long and
• 40:45We're so excited about it. We basically curated the event that we wanted to have right now.
• 40:51You know we are lonely and isolated and we do need spiritual community, one way or another right now. And so we wanted to build something for people to
• 41:02Unite and people who who are want to focus on Unity right now in this crazy polarized role. And so we've. We have everything from yoga in the morning to guided meditations to sound healing to breath work. And then we have amazing speakers that are talking about everything from
• 41:21How to deal with this pandemic burnout to energy protection for light workers, we're going to have a medium come and do live medium ship readings and we our keynote speaker is column Adele, who's an astrologer, and he's going to be talking about
• 41:38You know the astrology coming up, you know, for 20 2021 and all that. And in astrology in these uncertain times and what what what we might have to look forward to, you know, the good, the bad, and the ugly or whatever.
• 41:51So, so, yeah. It's basically a day for everybody to come together and do all things mystical and create a spiritual community and
• 41:58And hang out together. So we're really, really excited about it.
• brandon handley42:02Now this sounds exciting. Like I said, you know, I think I saw Mona's paying off on Instagram. I saw start following it, and it seems like you know
• 42:10I love what you guys are putting together their talk to me a little bit about the astrologer, I think he's got like a little bit of a baton. What's his What's his
• Spirit Guides42:17So called Collins handle on Instagram is queer cosmos. And so he has he's he's and he is
• 42:24He's an amazing gay man and he started doing astrology for the queer community and which is was novel at the time, you know, and but more than that. I mean, he is
• 42:35He's one of my favorite guests have on my podcast. I'll say that right now. He's so enjoyable. He's brilliant. I mean IQ off the charts and he's he's so fun. So anytime that he's around. It's a good time. And I definitely recommend following him on Instagram at clear cosmos. He's great.
• brandon handley42:55So yeah, I remember that you're seeing them and chocolate.
• 42:59Yeah.
• brandon handley43:00Funny Guy when I grew up. I grew up, like in the gay community, you know, was out in San Francisco, San Francisco in the 80s right and and the one thing that happened out there was like my mom was an altercation with
• 43:16Her significant other, at the time, and he ended up by children and stuff. And so I ran across it, you know, the neighborhood and got these guys on the bed and they came. I can't rescue my mom so
• 43:28Oh wow, for the rest of my life, you know, gay guys have a
• 43:30Have a soft spot in my heart. Right. And it's just been in that community. It's, it's fun, right. Like, I mean,
• Spirit Guides43:36Oh, there's no doubt about that.
• brandon handley43:37So it's always a good time.
• 43:39See on
• 43:40Where, you know, should I send people to come check out more actually know what before I do that,
• 43:45I've done this for a minute, just because you know so the idea to have spiritual though.
• 43:48Is that you get this kind of you for high thru spirituality. Right. And that's like on the on the take us a spiritual dope is about that and then like
• 43:58You know, what's your spiritual hit right like and it talks about meditation, but when you when you're connected to source where, what does that look like
• Spirit Guides44:08Whoo. Yeah, there's, there's two for me. So definitely meditation. I'm a avid meditation or
• 44:15But their original Oh gee, writing, man. That's my space. That's my timelessness, that's the
• 44:20One place where I don't care if I haven't eaten and that's saying a lot. I love to eat. You know what I'm saying. Like that's that's the time where time flies and I just
• 44:30I'm in so much joy and I'm so inspired. I'm in spirit. You know that's that's where it is for me is when I'm writing. And so this man I'm preaching to myself right now. I got to clear it more time in my schedule to do it.
• 44:43But yeah, that's my spiritual dope for sure is is being in that creative zone.
• 44:50I love that question.
• brandon handley44:52Thank you. So the idea that too is like i mean i would i would i would say that
• 45:00You know, create you are creators right
• 45:03Yeah. And then when you surrender to that creativity. That's
• 45:08within you, right, that is source flowing through you. Is that fair to say
• Spirit Guides45:13Oh yeah 100%. I mean, we would we call God the Creator. And if you look at metaphysical principles as above, so below. We are here to create
• 45:26You know, and that's why that nine to five working somebody else's dream and fluorescent lit room didn't work for me because I felt that called to be creative. I felt, what am I doing here, if I'm not creating
• brandon handley45:37Something
• Spirit Guides45:38And now you can be creative, creative doesn't mean writing or painting all the time, creative can mean coming up with a scientific cure for cancer or whatever, you know, using your creative brain. You're in passionate about it. And so I absolutely agree with you.
• brandon handley45:52I love that you hit on life because
• 45:55People don't always recognize that they feel like creativity has to be writing painting singing, dancing.
• Spirit Guides46:02Brain, the arts.
• brandon handley46:03The classical arts
• 46:05Yeah, right. But
• 46:08And I know as somebody one day.
• 46:11You just got it. What is it that you'd like to create and I'm like, Well, I'm not very creative like
• 46:14You know you're raising kids are doing this that the other than your training things right, you're making moments, you're creating moments I mean creativity is more than, you know, put a pretty picture right so I love that you hit on that. Thanks for hanging on that.
• 46:29Yeah, what type of meditation do you do it, you
• Spirit Guides46:34Got just you didn't do not asked me that question.
• 46:37I am I am not.
• 46:39Trained in meditation at all. I'm self taught and
• 46:44For whatever reason, I'm pretty good at it. I just I lay down you can see my bed back there. I lay down horizontally. I don't sit in lotus position or anything I lay down on my bed.
• 46:54I play some Native American flute music and I go in
• 46:57Los
• brandon handley46:59That's great to write in terms of meditation or a feeling it's got to be done a certain way or like, yeah, I did a really shitty meditation this morning.
• Spirit Guides47:09I i think
• 47:11I think I you know it's the keep it simple, stupid like that's that's been my philosophy for
• 47:17My spiritual path and it's what's worked out for me. Like I and I you know in my company I've seen it all. I promote people that do it all. I'm talking like all the all the modalities and the
• 47:29Divination tactics and all this stuff and I'm Oh gee prayer and meditation and you know we all just got to do what works for us.
• brandon handley47:38To so they
• 47:40Just show us what your prayer. Looks like I always say this because I think of this Norman Vincent feel kind of skip
• 47:49It's not as good. It's like when he's doing his own in power positive thinking thing.
• 47:53And talks about this lady testing because you when you pray you don't like out there like a beggar.
• 47:59You know, you're like oh please give me all these things would you like you demand you know much very somewhere, come what you're talking about, like,
• 48:07I'm not going after it. It's got to come to me like these are things I want you know. So what's your, what's your prayer look like. Just out of curiosity,
• Spirit Guides48:13Yeah, I mean it's it. That is a good point it start, the only it starts always with gratitude.
• 48:20Always with gratitude and and then I do go into my demands. I do feeling that I've, I've had the shift from beggar to
• 48:30You know, this is, this is what I this is what is going to be brought to me and I, and I've learned that over time through spiritual mentors, saying, you know, you
• 48:38This is yours for the taking. You can you demand that so I start with gratitude and and I pray for you know what I need. In most of the time that's to take away my
• 48:50Worries and stresses and concerns because that's the only thing in my way. So I do pray for that to be taken and I pray for the people that I love and I pray that
• 49:02You know that love walks before me wherever I go. And then I pray to be used, how spirit needs me. And then I say, thank you.
• 49:11Yeah.
• brandon handley49:12Um, this will be like my last question.
• 49:17So when you. I like the idea of writing when you write
• 49:24With a pen in hand right or doesn't have to be. But I feel like that's what I'm most connected. I like to call it cosmic record player. This is my cosmic needle right
• 49:36You know, do you have a preference of writing by hand or typing.
• Spirit Guides49:41I'm
• 49:43I'm right differently. I write, I write both ways. And I write for different reasons I I write. I typically write
• 49:52Pen in Hand in my journal when I'm writing for myself and nobody else if that makes sense. And for my own clarity and my own as you say connection.
• 50:03But it's all about the computer for everything else.
• 50:07My hand hurts too much.
• brandon handley50:10Out of out of curiosity, right, like yourself. Once
• Spirit Guides50:13I do agree with you though there's there's different
• 50:16A whole different vibe. When you got the pen in your hand. Right, right.
• brandon handley50:20Now, and look, I mean, it takes a lot to to write Tom by paper.
• 50:27Pretty fast, man.
• Spirit Guides50:28Yeah, exactly.
• brandon handley50:31Okay, so where we're gonna need to go a couple places or warm place. So we're gonna go to find you and the spirit fast.
• Spirit Guides50:39Sure, I'm okay. Ultimately, you can go to spirit guides media.com for everything that I do. And on top of the navigation.
• 50:48At spirit guides media com you will see a link that says festival and that is where you can learn more about it. You can see the lineup. The full lineup. I didn't touch on everything.
• 50:58And also purchase tickets and we are offering a sliding scale pay what you can because times are tough and that is
• 51:05I feel the responsible thing to do. So we have that offered and other than that, you can find me on instagram at spirit guides media or my personal one is at underscore Arizona bell. I think that covers everything
• brandon handley51:20No.
• 51:22Um, well, this event view digitally after the past
• Spirit Guides51:28Great question. Can't believe I forgot to say that. Absolutely. So if you are able to catch none of it live or half of it live or all of it live and want to watch it again. We will send out a replay of the entire day video. So you'll get to see it all.
• brandon handley51:43Awesome, Arizona. Thank you so much for stopping by.
• Spirit Guides51:45Thanks, Brandon. It's been a joy and a pleasure.