Live From RIMS ERM Conference 2023

Published: Nov. 14, 2023, 9:12 a.m.

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Welcome to RIMScast. Your host is Justin Smulison, Business Content Manager at RIMS, the Risk and Insurance Management Society.

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In this episode, Justin interviews several notable attendees of the RIMS ERM Conference 2023 in Denver, Colorado. First is Fernanda Gutierrez Franco, a student at the University of Colorado. Fernanda speaks of the risk management program at the university. Next are two high-ranking AFERM members, Marianne Roth, and Bobbi-Jo Pankaj, who describe the similarities between AFERM and RIMS. They also speak of the Summit, AFERM\\u2019s Conference. Finally, Justin catches up with Dr. Innocent Uzombah, MBA, the Registrar General/CEO of the Chartered Institute of Loan & Risk Management of Nigeria. Dr. Uzombah hopes to bring the risk management body of knowledge in Nigeria to current standards. Justin wraps the episode with some of the benefits of attending the RIMS ERM Conference.

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Key Takeaways:

[:01] About RIMScast.

[:28] The segments of today\\u2019s episode were recorded live at the RIMS ERM Conference 2023 in Denver, Colorado. Live event episodes are Justin\\u2019s favorites. They capture the energy of RIMS events!

[:43] Justin sends a quick shout-out to the RIMS New Zealand Pacific Island Chapter and Marsh Australia and New Zealand, who welcome you to Embrace The Unknown: Unleashing the Power of Risk, a one-day event on February 12, 2024 at the Pullman Hotel in Auckland, NZ.

[1:07] It will be a gathering of experts, thought leaders, and professionals from various industries to explore and discuss the critical role of risk management in today\\u2019s dynamic and uncertain world. There will be sessions on AI, Resilience, and Adaptability, highlighted by case studies and insights. See the link in this episode\\u2019s show notes.\\xa0

[1:28] Next week on RIMScast, one of the speakers will be joining us! Be sure to tune in.

[1:34] It\\u2019s never too early to talk about RISKWORLD 2024! Save the date, May 5th\\u20138th, 2024 in sunny San Diego, California. Booth and sponsorship sales are open. Member registration opens this month, November 2023 and public registration opens in December 2023. Visit RIMS.org/RISKWORLD to learn all about it.

[2:09] We have a range of perspectives on today\\u2019s episode of RIMScast. Our first perspective comes from a soon-to-be rising star in the risk profession, Fernanda Gutierrez Franco, a student at the University of Colorado. She is very involved in the risk management program and risk management groups at the school.

[2:32] Fernanda was one of the contestants for ERM Squares. Justin caught up with Fernanda in the ballroom to hear from her how students are seeing the risk profession and what her career goals are.

[2:48] Fernanda Gutierrez Franco, welcome to RIMScast! Fernanda started college with a biology major for pre-med or nursing. It wasn\\u2019t a fit, so she switched to business, hoping to go into management or accounting in the health sector. In one of her classes, guest speakers talked about the RMI program. She booked a meeting and switched her major.

[4:06] Fernanda loves risk management for the opportunities for students and how welcoming everyone is in the industry. Fernanda describes opportunities at CU Denver and RMI events such as spotlights on companies and shadow days to visit companies and shadow the employees. Fernanda describes Gamma Iota Sigma internship events.

[4:59] Many speakers come to talk to classes in panelist events or to talk about risk control and company practices.

[5:19] Fernanda loves ERM for everyone coming together to realize that there has to be something done;\\xa0 there has to be a risk assessment or something laid out. It\\u2019s educating people that aren\\u2019t in the risk industry that risk is always here and it\\u2019s better to be prepared than to be sorry later.

[5:44] Fernanda will take a course under David Young in her grad program.

[6:05] Fernanda is the Women in Business VP,\\xa0 the Gamma Iota Sigma VP. She is more involved with the Gamma Iota Sigma group that meets Tuesday morning, weekly and hosts two to three events monthly. They have nine elected officials and are working on getting more members involved in the organization.

[6:49] Fernanda was a moderator at the RIMS Western Regional. It was her first time moderating at a risk event and her first time in front of a huge crowd. It scared her a bit to be standing in front of 400 people, but it was a great opportunity, she got a lot of exposure and the session was fun and informative.

[7:49] Fernanda has had other speaking opportunities, including high school commencement, for around 150 people.

[8:12] Fernanda was one of the first two contestants for the RIMS ERM Squares. She had to agree or disagree with answers from nine seasoned risk professionals on stage.

[9:18] Justin congratulates Fernanda and thanks her for being on RIMScast.

[9:23]\\xa0 RIMS plug time! Upcoming Virtual Workshops: Visit RIMS.org/virtualworkshops to see the full calendar. December 7th starts the three-part course, Leveraging Data and Analytics for Continuous Risk Management, which will be led by our friend Pat Saporito.

[9:44] Fundamentals of Insurance returns on December 12th and 13th. It will be led by our good friend Gail Kyomura. Information about these sessions and others is on the RIMS Virtual Workshops page. Check it out and register!

[10:01] On November 16th, Nationwide returns to present U.S. Customs Surety Bonds: A Primer for Risk Professionals. On November 21st, Beazley returns to present Business Risk: Helping Your Executives to Navigate Today\\u2019s Volatile Risk Environment.

[10:25] On December 1st at 7:00 a.m. Eastern, Prudent Insurance Brokers Private Ltd. returns to discuss Business Interruption. At 2:00 p.m. Eastern, on December 1st, the RIMS PUBLIC POLICY COMMITTEE PRESENTS: Understanding Nevada\\u2019s \\u201cDefense Within the Limits\\u201d Ban.
[10:47]\\xa0 On December 7, 2023, our friends at T\\xdcV S\\xdcD GRC return to discuss Engineering Resilience: Strategies for Preventing Machinery Breakdown. On December 12th, Prepare Yourself for the New Generation of Risk with Riskonnect. On December 14th, Aon will be Addressing Today\\u2019s Risks While Preparing for the Risks of Tomorrow.

[11:08] Visit RIMS.org/Webinars to learn more about these webinars and to register! Links are in the show notes. Webinar registration is complimentary for RIMS members.

[11:28] The next guests are Bobbi-Jo Pankaj, 2023 Summit Committee Chair, with AFERM, the Association for Federal Enterprise Risk Management, and Marianne Roth, AFERM President. AFERM was at the ERM Conference.

[11:53] RIMS looks forward to collaborating with them for the 2023 AFERM Summit Training on November 28th and 29th at the Walter E. Washington Convention Center in Washington, D.C. The link is in this episode\\u2019s show notes. Bobbi-Jo Pankaj and Marianne Roth, welcome to RIMScast!

[12:18] Justin interviews high-ranking AFERM members, Marianne Roth, and Bobbi-Jo Pankaj, at the RIMS ERM Conference 2023. Marianne says AFERM is the only organization dedicated to government employees who are leaders in ERM. AFERM has about 500 members from state, local, and federal government and the private sector.

[13:07] The members of AFERM facilitate ERM at all levels of government and in the nonprofit sector. Bobbi-Jo says she has a deep love for ERM. AFERM is the Association of Federal Risk Management. AFERM has a lot of activities for state, federal, and local governments and vendors. Bobbi-Jo is a vendor. She works for Guidehouse.

[13:32] Bobbi-Jo is the Summit Chair for 2023. The Summit is very similar to the RIMS ERM Conference. The Summit focuses on weaving ERM into the fabric of government. There are usually 300 or 400 attendees in person and virtually. The Summit is November 28th and 29th.

[13:53] AFERM is heavily tied to the federal government, so if the government shuts down, the event will be moved to a later date. It will still be in Washington, D.C. at the Washington D.C. Convention Center. RIMS is slated to have a presence at the Summit.

[14:22] At the Summit, there\\u2019s an exciting vibe; everybody loves ERM. There are speakers from the public and private sectors. There are 21 unique break-out sessions. There are five plenary speakers, including the Commissioner of the Internal Revenue Service. There\\u2019s a lot of networking. Which is one of the best takeaways from the event.

[14:46] There are tools and techniques that members have found successful in the government and the private sector. RIMS will have a booth at AFERM. Bobbi-Jo is excited to get potential new AFERM members from RIMS. A lot of AFERM members have the RIMS CRMP certification and the RIMS CRMP-FED microcertification.

[15:20] Marianne and Justin met online a few years ago after Marianne won the Theodore Roosevelt Excellence in Government Award for Innovation in ERM at the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. Justin saw it on LinkedIn and reached out to Marianne. They did a Q&A. It is linked in this episode\\u2019s show notes.

[15:54] Marianne has been an ERM risk practitioner for almost 10 years. Bobbi-Jo was in risk management first and has also been an ERM risk practitioner for about 10 years, since ERM took off in the federal government.

[16:07] Marianne has seen a lot of maturation of ERM capabilities across federal agencies with organizations focusing on risk appetite and maturing their processes, mitigating risks more effectively. Bobbi-Jo agrees and notes that a lot of AFERM members use the RIMS Risk Maturity Model\\xae to track the maturation of programs.

[16:44] AFERM is an all-volunteer organization. They seek volunteers year-round. Marianne enjoyed the Summit so much, she got involved with AFERM. Bobbi-Jo has been doing the Summit for seven years and took on the Chair position because it is an amazing event. Justin looks forward to seeing them at future RIMS events.

[17:22] Justin\\u2019s final guest for this episode is Dr. Innocent Uzombah, MBA, the Registrar General/CEO of the Chartered Institute of Loan & Risk Management of Nigeria. He came from Nigeria to attend the RIMS ERM Conference in Denver and has also been to several more RIMS events. Justin invited him to RIMScast to share his unique perspective.

[18:09] Dr. Innocent Uzombah, welcome to RIMScast! Dr. Uzombah is happy to be here. Dr. Innocent Uzombah has been a risk management practitioner for 13 years. Dr. Uzombah explains what drew him to risk management. He came to the RIMS ERM Conference to improve the body of knowledge in risk management practice in Nigeria.

[19:56] The Chartered Institute of Loan & Risk Management of Nigeria shares ideas and information with offices in Ghana, Cameroon, Kenya, and some other African countries.
[20:22] Dr. Innocent Uzombah says the session on Resilience was very good. He enjoyed other sessions, too. He will bring this information to Nigeria to teach others. He says risk management is a void in Africa. His advice to people in Nigeria interested in risk management is to get the right knowledge and education to fill the void.

[21:57] Dr. Innocent Uzombah has attended the RIMS ERM conference starting with the 2019 conference in Louisiana. He will continue to attend so the body of risk knowledge will improve in Africa. Justin is glad Dr. Innocent Uzombah is getting so much from the RIMS conferences and looks forward to seeing him again. Dr. Uzombah thanks Justin.

[23:23] Special thanks to all of my guests for joining us and to all the attendees of the RIMS ERM Conference 2023. We had a blast, from the sponsors to the attendees and presenters, everyone left with some great new insight, a wider network, and fun memories! Announcements about next year\\u2019s ERM Conference will be made in 2024.

[23:41] There is a special ERM edition of RIMS Risk Management Magazine that is also publicly accessible via the show notes. Check it out. You\\u2019ll see articles and RIMScast interviews featuring familiar names and faces from the conference.

[23:55] Go to the App Store and download the RIMS App. This is a special members-only benefit. Everybody loves the RIMS App!

[24:19] You can sponsor a RIMScast episode for this, our weekly show, or a dedicated episode. Links to sponsored episodes are in our show notes. RIMScast has a global audience of risk professionals, legal professionals, students, business leaders, C-Suite executives, and more. Let\\u2019s collaborate! Contact pd@rims.org for more information.

[25:02] Become a RIMS member and get access to the tools, thought leadership, and network you need to succeed. Visit RIMS.org/membership or email membershipdept@RIMS.org for more information. The RIMS app is available only for RIMS members! You can find it in the App Store.

[25:26] Risk Knowledge is the RIMS searchable content library that provides relevant information for today\\u2019s risk professionals. Materials include RIMS executive reports, survey findings, contributed articles, industry research, benchmarking data, and more.

[25:42] For the best reporting on the profession of risk management, read Risk Management Magazine at RMMagazine.com and in print, and check out the blog at RiskManagementMonitor.com. Justin Smulison is Business Content Manager at RIMS. You can email Justin at Content@RIMS.org.

[26:04] Thank you for your continued support and engagement on social media channels! We appreciate all your kind words. Listen every week! Stay safe!

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Mentioned in this Episode:

RIMS Risk Management Magazine: ERM Special Edition 2023

2023 AFERM Summit Training | Nov 28\\u201329, 2023

Riskworld 2024 \\u2014 San Diego, CA | May 5\\u20138, 2024

Embrace The Unknown: Unleashing the Power of Risk | Hosted Live & In-Person by RIMS NZ & PI | Feb. 12, 2024

Dan Kugler Risk Manager on Campus Grant

RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP)

NEW FOR MEMBERS! RIMS Mobile App

ERM Q&A with Marianne Roth: ERM at the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (2020)

RIMS Webinars:

An Introduction to U. S. Custom Surety Bonds | Sponsored by Nationwide | Nov. 16, 2023

Business Risk: Helping your Executives Navigate Today\\u2019s Volatile Risk Environment | Sponsored by Beazley | Nov. 21, 2023

Business Interruption | Sponsored by Prudent Insurance Brokers Ltd. | Dec. 1, 2023

RIMS PUBLIC POLICY COMMITTEE PRESENTS: Understanding Nevada\\u2019s \\u201cDefense Within the Limits\\u201d Ban | Dec. 1, 2023

Engineering Resilience: Strategies for Preventing Machinery Breakdown | Sponsored by T\\xdcV S\\xdcD | Dec. 7, 2023

Prepare Yourself for the New Generation of Risk | Sponsored by Riskonnect | Dec. 12, 2023

Addressing Today\\u2019s Risks While Preparing for Tomorrow | Sponsored by Aon | Dec. 14, 2023

RIMS.org/Webinars
Upcoming Virtual Workshops:

Leveraging Data and Analytics for Continuous Risk Management | Dec 7

Fundamentals of Insurance | Dec 12

See the full calendar of RIMS Virtual Workshops

All RIMS-CRMP Prep Workshops \\u2014 Including Chris Mandel\\u2019s Dec 13\\u201314 Course

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About our guests


Fernanda Gutierrez Franco

Vice President | Gamma Iota Sigma-Beta Mu

Vice President | Women in Business

Student Assistant | Environmental Health and Safety

Attends: University of Colorado Denver

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Marianne Roth, AFERM President

Bobbi-Jo Pankaj, 2023 Summit Committee Chair\\xa0

Aferm.org

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Dr. Innocent Uzombah, MBA \\u2014 Registrar General/CEO, Chartered Institute of Loan & Risk Management of Nigeria

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Tweetables (Edited For Social Media Use):

ERM is everyone coming together to realize that there has to be a risk assessment or something laid out. It\\u2019s educating the people who aren\\u2019t a part of the risk industry that risk is always here and it\\u2019s better to be prepared than to be sorry later. \\u2014 Fernanda Gutierrez Franco

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I have a deep love for ERM. AFERM is the Association of Federal Risk Management. We have a lot of activities for federal, state, and local government, as well as vendors. I\\u2019m a vendor. \\u2014 Bobbi-Jo Pankaj

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At the Summit, everybody loves ERM. We have public and private sector speakers. We have 21 unique break-out sessions. We have five plenary speakers, including the Commissioner of the Internal Revenue Service. There\\u2019s a lot of networking. \\u2014 Marianne Roth

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We share ideas between countries and try to improve the body of knowledge in the risk management practice in Africa. \\u2014 Dr. Innocent Uzombah, MBA

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