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Published: Oct. 29, 2019, 8 a.m.

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This week on Proof to Product we\\u2019re bringing you not just one, but TWO episodes with two special Paper Camp Alumni who are sharing what it\\u2019s like to run a manufacturing business and brick and mortar retail shops simultaneously. Today on Episode 129, Katie Wilson, founder of The Good Twin, and owner of two Los Angeles-based retail shops, Crush and Touch, returns to the show to share what it\\u2019s like to be a buyer, how being a retailer has changed over the years, and how she markets her own wholesale line to other buyers.

You might remember Katie from Episode 6 of Proof to Product where she first shared her startup story with us. If you haven\\u2019t heard that episode yet, it\\u2019s definitely worth heading back for a listen. Katie\\u2019s had an amazing business journey, and over the years, she has been a contributor to many tradeshow recap episodes, a frequent speaker at our Paper Camp conference and an incredible mentor to many in our industry. We\\u2019re thrilled to have Katie back today to share more of her experience and we hope you take away some great nuggets of advice. Coming up tomorrow, Episode 130 with Meg Sutton of Belle & Union.

ON TODAY\\u2019S EPISODE:\\xa0

- \\xa0 \\xa0 \\xa0 Katie\\u2019s first shop

- \\xa0 \\xa0 \\xa0 What inspired her to expand

- \\xa0 \\xa0 \\xa0 The types of products sold at Crush and Touch

- \\xa0 \\xa0 \\xa0 How Katie decides what to stock

- \\xa0 \\xa0 \\xa0 Dealing with concerns about competition

- \\xa0 \\xa0 \\xa0 Forging a unique experience for customer retention

- \\xa0 \\xa0 \\xa0 Calculating risk

- \\xa0 \\xa0 \\xa0 The importance of knowing what you want & need

- \\xa0 \\xa0 \\xa0 Making the most of handiwork & imagination

- \\xa0 \\xa0 \\xa0 Startup costs and maximizing labor hours vs dollars

- \\xa0 \\xa0 \\xa0 Planning for the best and the worst

- \\xa0 \\xa0 \\xa0 The do\\u2019s and don\\u2019ts of pitching and presenting to stores

- \\xa0 \\xa0 \\xa0 Reframing failure to make improvements\\xa0

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KEY TAKE-AWAYS:\\xa0\\xa0

\\u201cI smash everything in, and I get it all done, and I really love it, but it\'s amazing how much your hours in a day can expand if you need them to.\\u201d -\\xa0 Katie Wilson

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\\u201cSometimes when we want to do something, we kind of undermine ourselves in terms of how much work, how much time, how much energy this really, truly takes.\\u201d \\u2013 Katie Hunt\\xa0

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\\u201cI actually carry nail polish, because I\'m a big proponent of nail art is actual art.\\u201d \\u2013 Katie Wilson

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\\u201cIt\'s a very fun little baby, but it\'s a totally different side of my brain that I have to access to run it.\\u201d\\xa0 \\xac- Katie Wilson

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\\u201cI love the things that I make, but I\'m really passionate about a lot of the things that my friends make, or other people that I admire make.\\u201d \\u2013 Katie Wilson\\xa0

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\\u201cI\'m okay with a healthy amount of financial risk. But in terms of the entrepreneurs that I know, I would say that I tend to go small and steady versus just jumping in with both feet.\\u201d \\u2013 Katie Wilson

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\\u201cMy mantra is, always play the long game. You want to make sure that you know what\'s right for you, that you know what you need, and what your expectations are out of your businesses, and what you need to survive, and also what you need to be happy. Because those are two different things.\\u201d \\u2013 Katie Wilson

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\\u201cThat initial push is a lot of money, and you got to stock that store, and even if you\'re doing bonkers business, that\'s a slow game to earn that money back.\\u201d\\xa0 \\xac- Katie Wilson\\xa0

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\\u201cI always plan for my absolute worst month, and I say like, "Okay, if I can run on this, then I can do anything,\\u201d \\u2013 Katie Wilson.\\xa0

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\\u201cI\'m living out here. I\'m just trying to do my thing, and not to hurt your feelings, but I have days when I\'m back there, I\'m not wearing lipstick. Don\'t call me. I don\'t want to see you right now. I\'m not public ready.\\u201d \\u2013 Katie Wilson\\xa0

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\\u201cIf you are going out and leaving samples, or if you\'re mailing samples to stores, only send two to three at most. Do not send your entire product line, especially if you\'re selling something other than paper products.\\u201d \\u2013 Katie Hunt

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\\u201cFollowing up is key. And so is taking cues.\\u201d \\u2013 Katie Wilson

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\\u201cJust remember that everyone\'s human, the buyers are human, we\'re human. Sometimes we need those reminders.\\u201d \\u2013 Katie Wilson

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\\u201cThat not so good stuff is how we make improvements, and it\'s how we build stronger business. So they\'re not failures. It\'s just another way to expand what we\'re doing and do it well.\\u201d\\xa0 - Katie Hunt

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LINKS

Website: http://thegoodtwin.co

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thegoodtwinco/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thegoodtwinco/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/thegoodtwinco

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