Throughout the Trump era, oil companies big and small embraced systemic deregulation that allowed them to increase revenue through higher pollution. But the administration’s scale-back of methane rules ended up hurting oil companies, who are now losing international deals because of their impact to the environment. POLITICO’s Ben Lefebvre, on why big fossil fuel companies are suggesting some new openness to some regulation of greenhouse gases. Anthony Adragna is an energy reporter for POLITICO and host of POLITICO Energy. Ben Lefebvre covers energy for POLITICO. Carlos Prieto is a Politico podcast producer. Jenny Ament is the senior producer of POLITICO audio. Irene Noguchi is the executive producer of POLITICO audio.