[Unedited] Michael McCullough with Krista Tippett

Published: May 24, 2012, 4 p.m.

b'Michael McCullough describes science that helps us comprehend how revenge came to have a purpose in human life. At the same time, he stresses, science is also revealing that human beings are more instinctively equipped for forgiveness than we\\u2019ve perhaps given ourselves credit for. Knowing this suggests ways to calm the revenge instinct in ourselves and others and embolden the forgiveness intuition. Krista\\u2019s unedited conversation with Michael McCullough, author of \\u201cBeyond Revenge: The Evolution of the Forgiveness Instinct.\\u201d Krista spoke with him on August 29, 2008 from the studios of American Public Media in St. Paul, Minnesota, and he was in the studios of WLRN in Miami, Florida. This interview is included in our program \\u201cGetting Revenge and Forgiveness.\\u201d See more at onbeing.org/program/getting-revenge-and-forgiveness/104'