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Published: Aug. 25, 2021, 5 a.m.

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How would you like to hear me speak with an active duty police officer about police reform?

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Well in this episode you can do just that!

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Mike ter Maat is a police officer. He's also a Libertarian who is running for Congress, and we're going to talk about policing, criminal justice, economics, and much more.

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