Episode 561: Ian Coss
b'Ian Coss is a journalist, audio producer, and composer. He is the host of\\xa0Forever is a Long Time\\xa0and\\xa0The Big Dig.\\n\\u201cOne thing that I really carried with me in making the show is a belief that bureaucracy is interesting. And that once you get through the jargon and wonky sounding stuff \\u2026 beyond that it\\u2019s all just human drama.\\u201d\\nShow notes:\\n\\n@ian_coss\\n\\niancoss.com\\n\\n32:00\\xa0Isabel Hibbard\\u2019s website\\n\\n\\n33:00\\xa0Forever is a Long Time\\xa0(PRX \\u2022 2021)\\n\\n37:00\\xa0Lacy Roberts\\u2019 website\\n\\n\\n\\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices'